weapon damage and concealment

[Rico11b]

Originally Posted by Bob_Marley

They're '47's, note the distinctive "banana" style magazines. They're only found on 7.62x39 weapons in the AK series (AK-47, AKM, AK-103, AK-104 etc...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_74

Note: the banana clip. Banana clips are avail on ALL AK assault rifles, not just the 7.62 variants.

[WNxKenwayy]

Originally Posted by bullit_toof

It also goes to show that body armour don't do much good really, except against the pistol rounds. Body armour is highly over rated. Unless someone can proove otherwise.

Just the kevlar stuff, yes. But the chest plates will stop anything upto a 7.62 round, including some of the AP rounds, but not all of them (the sabot style round with explosive penetration most DEFINITELY penetrates it)

[Rico11b]

Originally Posted by [R-PUB]Maistros

Actually, EA Games, from the beginning, had always said in regards to this that they are just making a modern warefare themed arcade style game. "Fun gameplay will always come before realism in EA's official Battlefield2: Modern Warfare game" and they would leave it to the mod community to alter that if they wanted realistic gameplay.

EA didn't "fall short" in fact they did an amazing job of creating a game that allows the general public to go "running and gunning" with SOME basis of reality but not very much at all. EA made the game in hopes to APPEAL to the "modern war game" fans. Those who like to kill hundreds of people per round using an M16... go lobbing grenades relentlessly and pretty much 'pwn" people while using pre-existing weapons from real life... that's their target. Not us.

We want the real weapons AND the reality. I understand you have your own opinion but you should get the facts before forming it.

Point made, point taken

BF1942 thru BF2142 all use the same engine (with some updates of course), so everything after BF1942 has fallen short. Seems that everything after BF1942 was a mod of some kind. Just because they posted about the game being more of an arcade style before the game was released doesn't mean anything. They could have known for months before anything was ever stated, that they fell short. BF2 falls short period! If it weren't for mods like this one, this game would have been dead long ago. BF2 on it's own has indeed come up short. But all is not lost, at least we have this really cool reality based mod to come home to. Thanks fellas for making PR what it is. America's Army is a really cool game, but this one is better to me. At least that's the way it is for now. We could go on complaining and defending BF2 for some time now, but it ain't worth it. Let's just get to playing a REAL game, this one. Long live Project Reality!!!!!!!!

Night

[Pliskin]

Originally Posted by rico11b

Point made, point taken

BF1942 thru BF2142 all use the same engine (with some updates of course), so everything after BF1942 has fallen short.

Night

I'm very sure that BF1942 and BF2 are different engines.

[[R-MOD]KP]

Originally Posted by Pliskin

I'm very sure that BF1942 and BF2 are different engines.

Yeah, not much ragdoll effects in 1942...

[Kitoro]

Kevlar should be left to cops. Plate and kevlar mix yes but, if the bullet goes through, it would most likely tumble and cause more damage. Therefore making the blowout more deadly. Or not. But interesting Vid. So, the moral of the story is run for concrete or never be seen.

[Cazboab]

Originally Posted by rico11b

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_74

Note: the banana clip. Banana clips are avail on ALL AK assault rifles, not just the 7.62 variants.

Its a Magazine, not a Clip. by "banana" Bob refers to the older metal magazines with the grove running parallel curves to the edges of the mags, the magazine on that 74 is a plastic magazine which generally hold .22 caliber rounds.

However, the game models are Both AK 101-which does not have similar ballistics to the M16, it has IDENTICAL ballistics since its 5.56x45 nato- and type 56 Chinese made copys of the 47, the 47 sporting the older metal 7.62 magazines. Not so much of an issue since the PLA will be dumping the AKs as soon as, but there you go.

[[R-MOD]Bob_Marley]

Originally Posted by rico11b

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_74

Note: the banana clip. Banana clips are avail on ALL AK assault rifles, not just the 7.62 variants.

^AKM. Note the very curved (ie, "banana") magazine



^ AK-74M. Note the much straighter magazine.

And now, for your information, clips are used to load magazines and magazines are used to load guns.

[{XG} non_compliance]

Originally Posted by rico11b

Point made, point taken

BF1942 thru BF2142 all use the same engine (with some updates of course), so everything after BF1942 has fallen short. Seems that everything after BF1942 was a mod of some kind. .... BF2 falls short period! If it weren't for mods like this one, this game would have been dead long ago. BF2 on it's own has indeed come up short. .......
Night

wtf are you talking about?!!? They are TOTALLY not the same engine...

And as for the mods, the mods make up for less than 10% of the entire BF2 population... HARDLY ANYONE PLAYS BF2 MODS. (unfortunately there are too many stat whores)


Wow... you really checked out the facts before posting didn't you... Kids these days...

[Rico11b]

Originally Posted by {XG} non_compliance

wtf are you talking about?!!? They are TOTALLY not the same engine...

And as for the mods, the mods make up for less than 10% of the entire BF2 population... HARDLY ANYONE PLAYS BF2 MODS. (unfortunately there are too many stat whores)


Wow... you really checked out the facts before posting didn't you... Kids these days...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractor_2

Yes they do!!!! They all use the same REFRACTOR 2 ENGINE!!! Of course there are some changes and updates, but it's the same engine. I thought they were different engines also until i learned recently that they are using the same engine.