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Old 03-08-2010, 02:42 AM   #11
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Il tell you whats frustrating,

I spot a target. I tell my squad the location. Im very detailed, I say something along the lines of "enemy on rooftop at 215 degrees, to the right of the satellite dish etc" {this level of detail is very important and not something I think enough SLs do but thats for whole other thread} now, based on the info I gave my squadmates, and assuming they are with me and not spread out all over the map {which I wouldnt let happen anyway} then they shouldnt have a problem finding the target and returning fire. But theres always one guy, who says "duhhh can you put a marker on it please" Sorry buddy, but we are under fire. I cant whip out my map everytime im getting shot at and mark where the target is simply because you are too lazy to pay attention to the description I just gave. Its easier for me to do it over voip, as I can do it while shooting, and like I said before with enough detail its not hard at all to see where im talking about.
Its simply easier to put a marker man, many people are much more visual oriented.
and secondly, you don't have to open your map as a previous poster stated, you can simply hold T and move your mouse up to click attack mark. That easy.


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Old 03-08-2010, 03:08 AM   #12
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When I'm playing SL, i usually give a short but exact description of a taget's position once i spot one, while at the same time I'm setting a marker for my squad on it and then getting out the radio and marking the spot for the rest of the team if I think it makes sense .
Especially with enemys in buildings its the best way, because you can set a marker on the occupied house to draw your SM attention to it and then give the concrete location, like: "second floor, the first window on the left - enemy LAT"


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Old 03-08-2010, 05:26 AM   #13
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people just need to practice, I can get a marker down in less than 5 seconds now as long as I don't lag (makes me do that crazy 'radio off' 'radio on' 'radio off' movement until I resych


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Old 03-08-2010, 06:52 AM   #14
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No squad members should be firing without your go, regardless of whether you are getting shot at or not. Avoidance is the best form of defense.
Sure, but you don't wanna tell every squad member when and where to shoot all the time. You wouldn't have time for anything else. This is why we have control measures.
Update your SMs on the ROE regularely.

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Old 03-08-2010, 07:57 AM   #15
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Sure, but you don't wanna tell every squad member when and where to shoot all the time.
Ah contraire,

AR, only shoot on groups of infantry.

People carrying ACOGs, fire only on my mark.

Those with irons/reddots only fire when dangers is imminent.

I can say all that in under 6 seconds, and considering I say the ROE before the combat starts I can lengthen it with more details. All orders should be followed up with 'Are there any questions' anyway to ensure that there are no mistakes and those making them can be diciplined with the one strike then kicked system.

Anyway, I never have 'hot fire' moments unless there is a squadsworth of enemies within 50m. All contacts should be handled as such:

1. Have everybody prone
2. Aim at a single target
3. Say the following 'On my mark fire one single shot at [target], 5 4 3 2 1 fire'
4. When the target is down firmly say 'target down hold fire'
5. Repeat for each target, obviously firing at the highest priority ones first (leadership of the squad (SL), followed by the AR then grunts and finally the medic)

I can tell you now that that system does NOT ever fail, at least the 100s of times I've used it it hasn't, and alot of people can tell you that it does as well.

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You wouldn't have time for anything else. This is why we have control measures.
Update your SMs on the ROE regularely.
Like I said you shouldn't be having to tell them, anyone who does not comply with orders or previously-informed ROE's should be kicked.

Regardless I somehow make time for it incase the squad is full of dropkicks, micromanagement is key.

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Old 03-08-2010, 08:20 AM   #16
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I just put observe marker on everything, its silent


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Old 03-08-2010, 12:09 PM   #17
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I try to put markers when I can, but sometimes I have no idea where the enemy are located, but will know a direction(due to surround sound). So I generally yell a direction before and set a marker later when I get the chance.. Also it depends on how long the enemy lasts and if your surrounded :P. But yes SL's should if they can place markers, but if the squad is doing what its meant to and are close to the SL, normally a direction is good enough.


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Old 03-08-2010, 12:13 PM   #18
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Don't forget to use the commo rose, I can mark something I see in about a second with that.

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Old 03-08-2010, 03:34 PM   #19
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I usually only use the observe marker. It isn't very hard to put a marker when you are shooting. When you take a knee and your sights lined up with the enemy, the second or two it takes for deviation to settle is ample time to quickly drop a marker.


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Old 03-08-2010, 06:40 PM   #20
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even worse is that most squadleaders seem content to fight with 1 of 2 pals and start locking their squads, or keep them open but kick you relentlessly
if I come new to a server, most of the time my initial biggest concern is if I can find a squad
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