Which Mumble "style" do you prefer?

[zebra.actual]

Two channels. Not everyone on the battlefield understands English. With one channel I would be less tempted to use mumble to talk to other players and share information for fear that the enemy might hear.

It would still be 2 channel with your team in the same channel and the other team in their channel. The people in your channel hear what you say when you talk local. The enemy hears some sort of radio sound when you talk in mumble near them. That way the enemy could hear the radio sound but would not know what you said.

OR

You get 2 local buttons. One talks to everyone and goes 50-60m. The other talks to your team alone and only goes 20-30m.

[theflidgeface]

yea i agree with zebra that does sound like a good idea

[Megagoth1702]

2. all reasons have been told here. less retards, more teamplay.

@ zebra: Its hard enough to get people to use mumble at all. Although I love mumble with PR and would do pretty much any kind of tiny trick to get the experience to be better, but I do not want to because as I said its hard enough to get the people used to having TWO DIFFERENT OMGZ VOIP buttons and their proper use.

[DaKillerFox]

While I understand the merits of having 2 channels, I have come to realize that a lot of people won't bother with Mumble, except for the L33T servers and players, because it's just such a hassle. Honestly, I am already dealing with enough CTD's trying to get PR up and running that I don't want to risk it to Alt-Tab in and out to be in the right channel or bother an Admin to do it, or God-forbid, get dropped by PB. I'm finding that on a lot of new Mumble servers, where everyone is not necessarily enamoured with Mumble yet, everyone just crowds into the main channel or doesn't use Mumble.

So.... 1 Channel FTW.

[DaKillerFox]

Originally Posted by Ca6e

In RL they use 2 chanel comms, 1 is used between squad leaders or SL -> Comm, and second is inner comms between squadmates, so i support 2 channel.

While it is not completely accurate, the In-game VOIP already does this, so if this is all you're after, why use Mumble? That's a lackluster at best reason for having two channels, in my opinion, Mumble should be used for Inter-squad communication so there is more Teamwork overall, not just more squad-work. That plus it would be awesome to be able to talk to the enemy, i.e. downed pilots, unarmed soldiers, civies, etc.

[DaKillerFox]

Originally Posted by Farks

Yeah, cos it's really hard to ALT+TAB... And the downsides with one channel has been mentioned several times; immature behaviour, people stopping to use it during combat (when you need it the most) cos the enemy can hear you, and so on. You might as well be in the same TS-channel.

Well then, maybe you can give a better explanation for why I find some Mumble channels empty as a desert, with the exception of a few servers like TG. I don't think you should eye-roll, because the Mumble population is not anywhere near exciting or even impressive. I am an avid advocate for Mumble and I'm sorry, but it's no fun when I'm the only one on the server using it... That's major !

[Zrix]

1 channel has it's pros, it's nice to be able to talk to and hear the enemy. But it leads to Mumble being used less in combat situations, so I have to say 2 channels are better.

[Winstonkalkaros]

2 channel system is better. How often does all the soldiers have straight channel to their commander? Not very often think. Besize, Squadleader will have to deliver info and messages between soldiers and commander. That is more realistic.

[DaKillerFox]

I just want to know why, outside of TG, other servers have trouble getting people to use Mumble. Never played on any European servers like Reality Teamwork or what not though...

[Tartantyco]

Originally Posted by DaKillerFox

I just want to know why, outside of TG, other servers have trouble getting people to use Mumble. Never played on any European servers like Reality Teamwork or what not though...

1. TG is a cohesive community built around teamwork where such tools are more likely to be embraced on a large scale.

2. RT prioritized mumblers, making more people start using it. Exponential growth and all that.

Both communities also have a lot of known players and great teamwork that attracts more players, and these then start using mumble as well.

The reason why most other servers do not have a large mumble user base is because they rely more heavily on casual players, they do not have the same strong communities, and they do not advertise or enforce the use of mumble. When we were just starting to use mumble there was such a large portion of the population that thought it was pointless and didn't want to get mumble for no reason whatsoever(Most of which changed their opinion later ). This is also the case with casual players, they don't see any reason to invest any effort into getting and trying to use it, and those who do are faced with the barely populated channels get discouraged.

The only way you get people to use mumble is through having a large portion willingly start using it, advertising it, and enforcing it.