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Old 03-01-2010, 12:31 AM   #11
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I think we will just have to deal with it the way it is now. Because it is hard coded there is no way to replicate proper accuracies at all ranges so tough luck for us sadly. Boo dice.

Its still 100x better than most shooters anyway.
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Old 03-01-2010, 04:48 AM   #12
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Its fine. I have no problem taking people down. Aimpoint 24/7 and you will start hitting things.


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Old 03-01-2010, 05:38 AM   #13
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Are u guyz kidding, pew pew is much better than it was in 087 and the deviation is already lower, like some1 said, those full auto m4/m16's are so CoD-like.
Either ur still "reflex" prone diving when u see ur own shadow or u pick leet scopes 2 much, probably u do both.


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Old 03-01-2010, 08:31 AM   #14
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By the last few weeks (since i joined the discussions on the forum) i heared the same thing again and again:
The settle time of every assault rifle and a bit from the others is absolutly annoying and unrealistic.
I'm talking about the time you need to get a shot with minimum deviation after moving more than like 5 seconds.
And i tend to agree to that opinion. A trained soldier - in my country at least - should be able to put a precise shot down range of at least 50 meters in less than 2 seconds, 3 at a maximum.
Im either too supid to start a poll or i simply dont have the rights to. I'd really like to have a poll on either decreasing, increasing (with various amounts) or simply let it be the way it is.

PS: im not sure if this is a suggestion, it might be, but i dont think so...
So what you say is that a soldier can hit accurately in 2 or 3 seconds are they super men? I mean seriously I have shot alot with a 22 rifle atleast (10 000 bullets) and I use atleast 3 seconds to find the actual target at 50 meter now its smaller 11cm but seriosuly I dont believe they can do that. Then you cant say that on the target range its so and so, in most CQB in PR your taken by complete surprise mostly you also have stress you have so that you never are in a perfect shooting stance, are you tired do you shake when your holding the weapon? are you holding it rigth at the time do you pull the trigger right? I mean its not as simple as just squeeze the trigger.

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Old 03-01-2010, 08:38 AM   #15
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Then at close range, I can never hit anything with any real accuracy. I can have a guy walking in front of my 20 meters away but miss him completely on automatic fire if I have not settled for the 5 seconds, or maybe just barely kill him when im on the last few bullets of a remaining clip. To be true this isn't realistic at all, in Real Life a trained soldier should be able to nail bullets in a close vicinity at 20 meters without them going rampet. I've also had instances where i've been up close with a PKM undeployed when i've went prone and missed a guy a few meet away completely. Really sucks.
bold ^ dont go prone, crouch/stand. also 5 seconds is for long range, closer target is the less you have to wait. also on CQB maps take iron sights people, i always see to many scopes.


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Old 03-01-2010, 08:49 AM   #16
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also on CQB maps take iron sights people, i always see to many scopes.
agree. buy a big shiny monitor and play with a nice high resolution makes iron sights so much more effective!


i think the deviation in .9 is the most user friendly it's been in a while in terms of accuracy, pace and not being twitchy. then again i wasn't too phased by deviation in 0.8, just be patient take time to get into the ideal firing position


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Old 03-01-2010, 10:14 AM   #17
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Talking about CQB deviation and pew pew, not long ago on Muttrah I was sprinting down a street like an idiot and saw a guy prone and aiming at me like 10m away, So I thought that I'd try to shoot at him or sth and maybe ill get to live cuz he will panic, I aimed at him roughly with my g3 and fired singles while walking, and he died.


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Old 03-01-2010, 10:45 AM   #18
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CQB Deviation is fixed by getting yourself a fully automatic ironsighted weapon and unloading on the target... you will win.


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Old 03-01-2010, 11:48 AM   #19
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Take my suggestion: try aiming with these weapons in real life.

I can guarantee that you can NOT aim correctly in 2 seconds with an ironsight.

2 sec for ironsight and 5 seconds for optic is realistic.

If you want to be able to fire faster, walk slower and stop once in a while... in real world, it is almost stupid to run in woodlands(because of the tree branches, vines...etc, if you move any faster than walking speed...you will get hurt/make lots of noise).


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Old 03-01-2010, 01:44 PM   #20
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i was in the austrian army, same as a lot of my friends and i know guys who have been there for more than 3 years. we have the steyr aug, which has optics with 1.5 times zoom and myself and all of my friends are able to put down a "precise" (torso) shot at a range of 50 meters in less than 3 seconds, the guys who were at the army for more than 3 years less than 2.5 seconds and thats the way maximum. there is a huge difference between shooting rifles that are in non-military use, because they are way harder to handle, but we are talking about assault rifles, made exactly for the purpose of fast aiming...

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Then you cant say that on the target range its so and so, in most CQB in PR your taken by complete surprise mostly you also have stress you have so that you never are in a perfect shooting stance, are you tired do you shake when your holding the weapon? are you holding it rigth at the time do you pull the trigger right? I mean its not as simple as just squeeze the trigger.
We are talking about trained soldiers, not about random guys with guns (except for the insurgents). These guys are trained for not being affected by stress and holding the gun the way it was meant.
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