Iron sights and scopes

[Hunt3r]

Scopes have never been harder to aim. It's all about cheekweld.

Anyhow, I think that scopes should have reduced max deviation though, because it's a bit unrealistic to aim at one place with the scope reticle, and have it hit at the bottom of the BDC ladder.

[Brummy]

Originally Posted by Varkbrak

You might be right, but in the previous version it was possible to drop onto your belly and start shooting immediately and kill the bloke in front of you.

This is exactly what the DEVs do not want.

[[R-DEV]Outlawz7]

Originally Posted by Hunt3r

Anyhow, I think that scopes should have reduced max deviation though, because it's a bit unrealistic to aim at one place with the scope reticle, and have it hit at the bottom of the BDC ladder.

You only get that by instaproning and firing immediately or shooting too fast...

[[R-MOD]Jigsaw]

Originally Posted by iAllex

Actualy, it's not. Aiming properly with an iron sight is much harder than scope, but aiming properly with red dot is easier.

That was actually my point...

Originally Posted by iAllex

... i just like iron sight

I never play without one.

Originally Posted by Varkbrak

@Jigsaw: You might be right, but in the previous version it was possible to drop onto your belly and start shooting immediately and kill the bloke in front of you. (With iron sights) Now it is not possible, cause you have to wait 4 seconds in order to kill him.

I am right

Being able to drop onto your belly and inta-kill an enemy was removed in 0.9 for a reason. It is called prone spam and is shockingly unrealistic to be able to accomplish, hence its removal. It is a good thing that it is gone.

Pro tip: crouch and shoot instead of proning. If you go prone deviation will shoot right up as you say and you will spray all over the place. Crouch and your deviation will be affected only by your recent movements using WASD, meaning you should be more accurate. If you are using iron sights then you will be sighted in quicker than any enemy with a scope, so you have an advantage there.

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by [R-CON]Outlawz

You only get that by instaproning and firing immediately or shooting too fast...

Firing immediately yes, but even if you fire immediately in a reflex optic, it appears a lot more accurate. With scoped optics, your mistake is magnified maybe 4 times, so it feels a lot worse, even if not quantifiably less accurate.

[Varkbrak]

Originally Posted by Jigsaw

That was actually my point...


Pro tip: crouch and shoot instead of proning. If you go prone deviation will shoot right up as you say and you will spray all over the place. Crouch and your deviation will be affected only by your recent movements using WASD, meaning you should be more accurate. If you are using iron sights then you will be sighted in quicker than any enemy with a scope, so you have an advantage there.

Yeah I know. That is an old tip, but good none the less. Coming to a dead stop and aiming has the same effect aswell.