what do you call Base Rape?

[BloodBane611]

Originally Posted by darkside12

So would you consider camping a FOB a form of base rape?

If you're sitting by yourself 100m from an FOB waiting for people to spawn and then shooting them, it's certainly FOB rape. It's abusing the way PR works in a way that makes the game both less fun and less realistic.


As far as base rape goes, I think everyone needs to realize that there are 2 kinds of bases in PR (at least in the context of this discussion):

1) Those meant to portray a base actually present in the combat zone (US/UK mains on Lashkar, Korengal)

2) Bases meant to portray an area far outside the combat zone (all mains on Kashan, Quinling)

Baseraping on #1 is not just okay, it's by design. Baseraping on #2 is totally not okay, and the maps are designed to keep you a reasonable distance from these mains. However, just because you can figure out a way to camp these mains, doesn't mean you should....and admins should seek out and warn/kick/ban players who continuously make the game hell for others.

[[twl]Lan]

This discussion has been done before.

1, Baserape is defined by the server rules.
2, Killing anyone directly on spawn, kills the server population. Hence the "safe spawns in main".
3, Baserape rules are meant to safeguard some fun for everyone involved. It will always depend on the map how this is interpreted. Mining the ramp on Muttrah, sure, that is legal as it is not the only way out of main and the MEC's have every chance of clearing said ramp. However, if the US drops a crate, builds a FoB, a TOW and a cpl of machine gun nests right there overlooking the only exit from MEC main I would call that baserape (if built before the fortress was attackable). Such a act would kill the server.

[Ghost1800]

My personal opinion on the matter is that on most maps, if the enemy is not inside a Dome of Death then they are automatically fair game. I've been booted off servers because apparently killing a full truck on the main road bordering the harbor off of south city in muttrah is a 'don't shoot' zone. I don't understand how people can draw such arbitrary lines when actual battle lines are given to you by the maps own design. Now on insurgency, I think that firing into the main of BLUFOR teams is fair enough and as soon as the Lashkar Valley base is non-enterable by Taliban all will be right with insurgency.

Change your behavior to fit the circumstances, don't make up circumstances to justify your behavior.

[LithiumFox]

Agree. Insurgency baserape is good baserape. AAS is usually BAD baserape. :3 (preeeeettyy much. XD)

[Cheditor]

Tbh i think if the main base isnt attackable any form of attack near it, i.e what OP did is base rape. People use the excuse "their fault for not overwatching their main" well ok gonna go back to the old 32 person argument, you have 32 people you generally need all of that to make attacks, have 3 at main doing a really boring job waiting for 1 person who may not even come to lay mines is just silly idea. Because people were having fun attacking objectives is no way to justify attacking a main. Also i think base rape and base camping is the same, if the main is an uncap or not at the cap position, you shouldnt be nowhere near it.

[killonsight95]

the only problem is there arn't enough players to defend main bases properly, this is why i think AI should man AA guns and some of the stationary guns in the main base this IMO would solve alot of the baserape and lets say if you kill like 4-5 of them the enemy team looses 1-2 tickets this would mean that snipers would be fine but you'd need to be pretty ninja to get near enough to place mines etc.
@OP:
baserape is when you destroy enemy vechs/equipment before they've left main or before its the last flag on the ASS, also i consider baserape as killing them just as they leave main and abushing them at the enterance beacause in real life you should not be able to attack an enemy base base without great loses.

this is also why i support the idea of insurgents getting their 10 cashes back and lowering the enemy tickets per chase to 15 ish.Then introduce the idea that insurgents loose 1 ticket when they die(in total within the team) 10-15 times.
Not sure if those ticket are hardcoded or not probs are because the DEV's probs would have done it by now

[Epim3theus]

I would consider it lame if not baserape, and the rest what Cheditor said.

[Hitperson]

Originally Posted by johntheripper711

Ok me i've done this a few times on muttrah city, where i took a combat engineer kit and mined and c4'ed the ramp that connects to the mec vehicle spawn area, and just that ramp.
Than after i kill a supply truck or apc or more I get called out for base rape.

Now I consider base rape firing into a main, not setting up explosives on one of a few ways out. and note all these people had to do was turn left before the ramp and they would have been fine.

Now the question i have for you guys is what do you consider base rape. because i think this thread should set in stone what it is.

well if i were to base this on the PRT rules it would be constituted as basrape as you are sabotaging their vehicles. base rape is not only firing into a base but also preventing assets from leaving an enemies main.

[snooggums]

Originally Posted by [R-COM]HangMan

Base rape is a conspiracy made up by sissys. I think if you can't cope with a sniper shooting into your base then maybe you should look into other mods instead of PR. Games can still be fun, even with alleged base rape. Defending a base ingame is actually a lot of fun if you take the time to fight off the enemy before trying to rush out with all the assets. If your getting base raped it just means you failing to defend your base..

My 2c

On the 4km AAS maps players should be out in the field, not forced to hang around main in case some creative person gets a HAT and a crate and hangs out killing assets for easy points. While some base defense can be fun on insurgency, that is only because insurgents have little to do while the BluFor is roaming around with no idea where caches are on 2km insurgency maps...

[HellDuke]

I consider baserape anything that will kill you in your main uncapable base without you being able to do anything about it. For egzample

A sniper camped out in the hills etc. killing you at a distance.

Mines on the only route out being placed CONSTANTLY. If you placed a mine on the only bridge out and left that's not base rape. But if you keep resuplying and doing it over and over - yes, you are a sissy base raper. Normaly a base would be defended, but since it's BF2 engine something like that can't really be done effectively.

All in all I am very tolerant of killing in main bases (while uncapable and you need less than 1 flag to be able to cap it). Killing off a commander or blowing up a tank once is fine. Just don't make a bad habit out of it. Remember with base rape you ruin the game for those who you kill PLUS your OWN team...