Clarification On Insurgency Collaborator ROE

[Meester]

Now, you can be killed as it says in the manual as a collaborator if you use the medic kit or the epipen. However what does the term 'use' designate?

Is it pulling out the epipen and/or medikit or using them? If its in actual use does this mean if you use the medikit on yourself and/or another person you can be shot and if you use the epipen even if you miss and fail to revive a person, can you be shot? Or is it simply the mere act of pulling out these object and having them in front of you, without actual use that you can be shot?

[[R-DEV]crazy11]

If you use the resuscitate and the epipen you are able to be shot, this means if you pull it out at all you need to wait a minute.


Using the medic bag does not count as part of the ROE if you are shot while holding the medic bag and have not used anything inside the ROE in the last minute you should be a martyr.

[Moonlight]

Tiny clarification: using your medkit to heal anyone doesn't make you be outside the ROE. One who shot you will still suffer the penalties. Using the resuscitate tool however does. Dunno about other things you've asked about.

[mosinmatt]

1) have and epipen or ressusitation hands used or equip. 60 sec cool off
2) used a vehicle, or gun position. 60 sec cool off
3) Had any kit that had a weapon. 60 second cool off

You can also be arrested by the Blufor shotgun. Which I think is totally fair. Civies, becareful of those Rifleman specialists. Although I do thikn the specialist should not have grenades. The guy has 3 thermites, a hook, shotgun + shells, rifle + magazines, body armor.
That is a lot to carry.
I personally think grenades should be removed from their inventory to help balance the rifleman squads.

[wookimonsta]

wait... medkit is not outside of ROE? must've misread something, good to know though.
I remember in .87 people fired at civilians to injure them, then killed em when they healed

[badmojo420]

It's a great time to be a civie, all this confusion about the ROE means you get killed lots. (Outside the ROE)

My question is why does the civie/unarmed ROE not apply to Taliban and Hamas factions as well? Or does it apply, but the messages just don't show up? I would love to run up and throw rocks at the tanks in Gaza, but i fear they won't get punished if they kill me.

Edit: Just remembered there is no collaborator kit on the hamas, so no rocks But still, abusing the ROE to our advantage makes the opfor in insurgency so much fun. It should be included in all insurgency maps.

[[R-DEV]fuzzhead]

Already been mentioned, but yes as soon as you take out the epipen or resuscitate that means you can be shot on site, the flag lasting 60 seconds from last time you took it out.

[Tofurkeymeister]

Is unarmed (drop kit) the same as civvie in the ROE?

[bloodthirsty_viking]

Originally Posted by Tofurkeymeister

Is unarmed (drop kit) the same as civvie in the ROE?

on insergency agiants insergents, yes it it,

i got killed with american unarmed kit (dont ask how i got it )
and it told me i was killed outside a roe XD

HE IS A CIVI KILLER =P

[joethepro36]

Something I've yet to see answered:
If you drop your kit on insurgency as the insurgent faction then you can be shot after a minute.
Does this apply to hamas and taliban?