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Old 02-05-2010, 05:20 PM   #1
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Default do vehicles really not spawn back in Vehicle Warfare mode?

really? I joined a game and everyone was complaining. I didn't get to leave the main at all... waiting for a while, got bored so I left. Really, they don't spawn back in?

also, I installed part 2, but Mumble didn't get installed? Where can I install it separately?

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Old 02-05-2010, 06:12 PM   #2
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Well yeah, major design flaw, vehicles get killed way too fast in some maps, and since their timer is so slow, most of the team gets to wait and tk each other for each vehicle that actually spawns. Not much else to do, so cant rly blame them.


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Old 02-05-2010, 06:27 PM   #3
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If you lose all of your vehicles too fast, then the other team has the ability to cap out the flag to cause a bleed. If vehicles respawned quickly no one would be able to gain area control.

How about not getting all the vehicles killed?

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Old 02-05-2010, 07:04 PM   #4
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That sounds lame, I thought the point was to destroy hostile armor to cause the ticket bleed. If they don't re spawn nobody is going to like that game mode.
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:11 PM   #5
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That sounds lame, I thought the point was to destroy hostile armor to cause the ticket bleed. If they don't re spawn nobody is going to like that game mode.
How is this different that any other aspect of PR? You grab a special kit, get killed, it gets lost, it doesn't magically become available because you died with it and now you want it. The same should go with vehicles, and I thought Snoogums mentioned that you bleed tickets by capturing points. This isn't a "Joy Ride" game mode, it's just AAS with Vehicles!


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Old 02-05-2010, 07:16 PM   #6
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Right, so call it what it is, AAS.

Vehicles are fun, I thought this would be PRs answer too the fact that people just plain don't like waiting for 20 minutes for a tank to spawn, not like there's no incentive not to lose it its like 20 tickets when you do.

The idea being that your always in a tank and always fighting, your rewarded by not being a complete retard in that you don't die.
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:38 PM   #7
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Right, so call it what it is, AAS.

Vehicles are fun, I thought this would be PRs answer too the fact that people just plain don't like waiting for 20 minutes for a tank to spawn, not like there's no incentive not to lose it its like 20 tickets when you do.

The idea being that your always in a tank and always fighting, your rewarded by not being a complete retard in that you don't die.
Right, you just answered your own question. You are rewarded in that you don't die, so you don't have to wait for a Tank to spawn. But you also forget that PR is a team oriented game, so you need your teammates to not be tards and die as well.


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Old 02-05-2010, 08:10 PM   #8
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How is this different that any other aspect of PR? You grab a special kit, get killed, it gets lost, it doesn't magically become available because you died with it and now you want it. The same should go with vehicles, and I thought Snoogums mentioned that you bleed tickets by capturing points. This isn't a "Joy Ride" game mode, it's just AAS with Vehicles!
In a normal AAS game, you can always go infantry if you lose your tank or your special kit. You dont have to sit around twiddling your thumbs, like you'll have to in vehicle mode, since there would be no point going infantry.

I Imagine ppl are gonna leave a server with that gamemode as soon as they die the first time and theres no more tank left. ServerKiller mode ftw?
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:34 PM   #9
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How is this different that any other aspect of PR? You grab a special kit, get killed, it gets lost, it doesn't magically become available because you died with it and now you want it. The same should go with vehicles, and I thought Snoogums mentioned that you bleed tickets by capturing points. This isn't a "Joy Ride" game mode, it's just AAS with Vehicles!
Except in this case a more accurate example would be if you spawned with a special kit, died, and had to run around for 10-20 minutes with nothing but a knife.

One of the most irritating aspects of PR to me is the complete lack of regular vehicle spawns on many maps causing the phenomenon of a main base filled with half the team waiting desperately for any sort of vehicle to spawn in order to move back out (and more often than not the only thing that seems to spawn are two-man trucks, grrr). This of course leads people like me to decide to trek out on foot, spend 10 minutes walking somewhere only to round a corner into an APC and get instakilled before I can even react, and then I get to experience the glory of replaying my predicament all over again.

I'm all for limited spawntimes for special assets -- aircraft, helicopters, tanks, etc -- but IMO general transport vehicles such as trucks and especially low armour, light offensive utility vehicles (Hummers, G-Wagons, etc) should be quite commonplace. They are afterall quite easy to destroy and sometimes you can't simply "not get them all killed" due to the quite unforgiving nature of the game.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:26 PM   #10
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I was more kinda expecting a Desert Rats play style.
What I got was a.........good luck lads


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