Commando Sky diving.

[Truism]

Just give the pilots back their pistols so we can pretend to be Fallshcrimjagers properly.

[Rangu]

Originally Posted by Truism

Just give the pilots back their pistols so we can pretend to be Fallshcrimjagers properly.

That's pretty much the main reason they were removed.

[Jedimushroom]

[OD-S] have been trying out this tactic, it actually works very well on Muttrah.

Two helos, one drops a crate at top speed, the other flies stupidly high and you just jump out, it doesn't even need to fly away from the carrier. When you land at the crate, swap out pilot kits for LAT/grenadier or whatever, and wreak some havok...

I believe munchy even killed someone by landing on them, talk about death from above...

[TmanEd]

Originally Posted by rushn

then it will be unfair for the other teamwho will be unable to shoot down the chopper

But it's all good, since they'll have a squad of parachutes in the sky pretty much asking people to shoot them.

[rampo]

Originally Posted by Brummy

Seems like a lame tactic imo

Well i did get kicked off UKWF whitout a warning because i was shooting my stinger from the huey

[Truism]

Originally Posted by Rangu

That's pretty much the main reason they were removed.

So?
I used to take the pilot kit on maps that no one wanted to play, like Ejod in one version. At one point we had two MEC Pilot squads in tight formation in the city.

We all knew it wasn't realistic, but it didn't really hurt gameplay.

(Edit: yes, wrecking a game by having two largely unarmed squads not fighting ruined that game, but airdropping lightly armed forces didn't.)

[Jedimushroom]

Actually it really did hurt gameplay, especially back when the pistols were so overpowered [around 0.8]. You'd get whole squads of paratroopers jumping in, destroying the enemy with their pistols and then picking up their kits and messing everything up. It's not what the devs wanted, so they got rid of it.

Not to mention the fact that downed pilots were no longer trying to run away, but rather charging head on at the enemy, which made no sense whatsoever.

[Gielster]

This sounds good in text, but will not work out well in game. At least not in a pubby game. It is very 0mfg d3lta though.

Originally Posted by Hunt3r

You can see where that got them because we all knew who won the war.

See where that got them? It got them taking over almost whole of the European continent. They could have won the war if some things went only a little bit different.

[combatwombat]

Cost of blackhawk = 5 tickets
Cost of pilot = 1 ticket
Cost of 1 full squad of paradroppers = 6 tickets
Getting in the F2 position of your technical and gunning down a BH and 6 "1337p4r4dr0pp3rs" as they slowly parachute down to earth = priceless


I can't see this working well on ramiel. The good FOB locations are all in the north of the city (near the insurgent main where tech's spawn), and the view distance is very long - meaning all 6 of the "0mfg d3lta" paradroppers will be sitting ducks as they parachute (since it takes a minimum of 30 seconds in the sky to survive the drop). The one benefit of this strategy I see that nobody has mentioned yet is that you could get a squad and a FOB in the city without having to sacrifice a vehicle.

Also, $10 says that any squad of players willing to actually try this strat will fire the miniguns indiscriminately as they fly towards their target. Weeeeeeee so much for stealth

[Shaihuluid]

Originally Posted by combatwombat

Cost of blackhawk = 5 tickets
Cost of pilot = 1 ticket
Cost of 1 full squad of paradroppers = 6 tickets
Getting in the F2 position of your technical and gunning down a BH and 6 "1337p4r4dr0pp3rs" as they slowly parachute down to earth = priceless

heh: that's 12 tickets total Paradrops in urban environments like insurgency are just stupid. consider that the streets are swarming with cheap AK47 guerrillas in highly defendable positions, and you'll see why it's a poor strategy. Either the Paras airdrop on the cache (which = immediate death) or they drop a little ways away in a highly visible show that is clearly not stealthy. A humvee could manuever into the exact same position faster and with more firepower.