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Old 01-21-2010, 04:48 PM   #31
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Default Re: Lack of Commanders in games

The reason why I don't command is because I'm afraid I'm going to let the team down
Also, UAV is not very effective unless you only know the map well in my opinion. I got myself lost using the UAV -.-
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Old 01-21-2010, 05:08 PM   #32
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Sounds technically feasible.


'Sif advance the mod. PR should be more like Counter-Strike.

We should all still be playing Karkand and in 1.0 introduce a riot shield. Then in PR2 only update the graphics and nothing else, oh and also remove the shield.
Yes.. a riot shield that can stop RPG... (lol COD)


Though I wouldn't say I'm a skilled commander I think I would be so much more useful if the squad leaders actually talked to me. I try my best to communicate and coordinate CAS, supply/ammo drops, and trans but it's a bit hard if no one talks to me.


And Sniper, don't be afraid to command a new/bad commander is always better then no commander. After all how are you supposed to hurt your team? Unless you go around spamming your mic to all the SLs (which I don't think you'd do).
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:08 PM   #33
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Being CO is not preferred because only few squads listening and taking orders from them.

I think solution is to make it preferable to take orders from CO. Giving points to accomplished CO orders can make it better I guess!
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:26 PM   #34
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It is my firmly held belief that the Devs are too worried about artillery spam, and as such they severely limit - cripple- the commander position by reducing the frequency of fire support to useless levels. This is why no-one wants to play Commander, because at the end of the day there is nothing fun and useful to do. Spotting with the UAV is all very well, but it is very hard to effectively relay information to the guys on the ground, even if aforementioned guys are competent, which is rare.

Considering the efficacy of modern artillery and fire support weaponry, the fact that it is so feebly represented in PR is a tad ludicrous. I am sure that giving the commander say one mortar strike every five minutes and one arty per 10 or JDAM per 15 would encourage commanders and would not harm gameplay at all.

Unfortunately, whilst the fire support seems to have been improved in 0.9, the frequency has not. One hit per hour? Please, that means it will never be used.

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Old 01-21-2010, 06:30 PM   #35
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Commander is pretty much pointless unless in a clan match/battle. Also info can be passed through team chat, pubbie squads do what they want etc. Makes for a boring game.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:06 PM   #36
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My first post in ... must be over a year on this forum. I wanted to speak up about the CO though.

On the last 4 or so versions of PR, the CO role has been made more and more redundant, and increasingly boring. Now I know how to do it, and I play on tg where I get insubordinate SL's kicked. So far so good.

All the commander features in current PR also work quite well. The limitations on mapmarkings are unfortunate, but that is EA's fault.

Now for the problem...

It is horribly boring

Anyone that enjoys the kind of 2D no-graphics gameplay the CO role is, is actually playing a 10 year old rts somewhere. And it is a lot better at it.

If I can organise 31 people, to cooperate nicely, to mount an awesome assault on an objective e.g. I want to be able to see it. I feel what we urgently need is for the CO to be able to see his own forces in action in 3D. It doesn't matter how much arty, or quirky irritatingly clumsy uav's the CO gets, when the only result he can see of the awesome action and teamwork he provides, is blue circles barely moving at all.

Plz free the CO from his 2D box, and many more commanders will be available on the long maps.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:35 PM   #37
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Ahh, commanding. I've sat in the trailer for nearly a year in PRT. That was real fun, communicating with people I know and I can rely on. But its horrible on pubs, where every hot-shot squad leader knows better.

And the most disgusting thing one can do is to disable his voip. I've been in situations where SLs did so even when I havent spoke to them.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:49 PM   #38
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Maybe a "disable squad-leader" option for the commander, balanced with a 'Mutiny' option for the squad leaders?


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Old 01-21-2010, 09:24 PM   #39
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Maybe a "disable squad-leader" option for the commander, balanced with a 'Mutiny' option for the squad leaders?
The problem is, what if the commander some guy who's trying to ruin the game for the whole team? To give the commander too much power presents a problem as well :/
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:29 PM   #40
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Im a commander, where are you?


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