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Old 01-11-2010, 05:32 AM   #1
Shaihuluid

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Default combined afghan-Blueforce operations?

One of the things that has traditionally irritated me about the BF2 engine is it's inabillity to simulate combat involving multiple factions or groups. While PR faithfully simulates US/UK combat in insurgency mode, it fails to account for the fact that A crucial part of the counterinsurgency combat is being fought by Blueforce-trained Afghan units. Why not have a map or two featuring Blueforce Afghan infantry w/AKM's (assault mg, etc) etc being led by american officers? IMO It would be much closer to real life.

Not only that, but why not have a few maps featuring combat among northern-alliance and taliban force during the invasion of 2001. Tora bora is a battle just asking for PR treatment!
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:43 AM   #2
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It is hard to recreate the realism of the Afghan/Iraqi situations.

IRL the quality and equipment of blufor is many times better, and ofc the quality of the trops and training is superior.

The ANA are far from elite, they swap sides, call their taliban mates and get stoned relatively often.

They have no fear of death

In game the players are on average of equal skill, without programming more frequent jams or dud rounds what can be done to show the equipment differences?

For the stoned behavoir what do you suggest, impaired reactions or blurred vision?

I am not suggesting this for PR just my comments.

Oh dear double post......
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:02 AM   #3
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It is hard to recreate the realism of the Afghan/Iraqi situations.

IRL the quality and equipment of blufor is many times better, and ofc the quality of the trops and training is superior.

The ANA are far from elite, they swap sides, call their taliban mates and get stoned relatively often.

They have no fear of death

In game the players are on average of equal skill, without programming more frequent jams or dud rounds what can be done to show the equipment differences?

For the stoned behavoir what do you suggest, impaired reactions or blurred vision?

I am not suggesting this for PR just my comments.

Oh dear double post......
Sir! You have just discovered that the majority of PR players is infact ANA soldiers logging in on their laptops during RnR. Dont tell FOX news or theyll organize a boycott of computer games!
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:13 AM   #4
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I believe that the Dutch forces will feature an ANA soldier class that you can pick, along with Dutch characters.

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Old 01-11-2010, 08:24 AM   #5
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The ANA are far from elite, they swap sides, call their taliban mates and get stoned relatively often.

They have no fear of death
That's only true for some (Yeah Ok most) ANA Units, some are quite well trained and do everything properly - it all depends on their Afghan Company Commander.


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Old 01-11-2010, 09:35 AM   #6
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The ANA are far from elite, they swap sides, call their taliban mates and get stoned relatively often.
On the other hand, they speak the language and know the culture - things that are more important than combat training or equipment in counter-insurgency.

But it's true- it would be hard to recreate in PR. Just don't like when people bash the ANA; they are the most resource that NATO has in Afghanistan and should be treated as such.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:41 AM   #7
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I believe that the Dutch forces will feature an ANA soldier class that you can pick, along with Dutch characters.
Na, not anymore. The ANA soldier was dropped a "long" while ago.


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Old 01-11-2010, 09:49 AM   #8
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Shame, but is it possible to code one kit speaking Farsi but the rest speaking english/dutch and so forth?

That would have been an awesome addition.

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Old 01-11-2010, 10:00 AM   #9
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Shame, but is it possible to code one kit speaking Farsi but the rest speaking english/dutch and so forth?

That would have been an awesome addition.
Sadly not, one side can only have one voice set.

Additionally, I'm going to have to remind you folks about our policy on sourcing. If you're going to make "factual" statements please do back them up or don't make them at all.

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Old 01-11-2010, 10:25 AM   #10
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Yes besides they don't speak Fahrsi it's Dari. Different Dialect.

source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dari_(Eastern_Persian) )


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