Sniper Squads- call it a day!

[Merk]

Meh, too many people think snipers are some super powerful godly class from watching too many sniper movies.

I do so miss a real sniper squad, a one with a mic and a spotter that communicates with him and dose not come late.

Sometimes I had better communications playing Stock BF2 than PR when it came to sniping.

(Note: I know there are plenty of people that ARE good at this, Im just saying from my own personal experiences)

[ghettostankk]

I think what people easily forget is that people get the sniper kits or create sniper squads because that is fun to them. This is a game made for people to play and have fun.

99% of the time the sniper or sniper squad is completely useless to the team. Everyone knows this, except for the sniper squads. I think that's why people dislike the snipers so much.

It's fun to them so let then snipe away.

[AgentMongoose]

Just keep telling yourselves that gents.

Mind you most jerk offs who grab a sniper kit don't have a clue what they are doing...
But there are more then a few Highly skilled snipers out there.

[Joeziah]

can anyone point me to a developer thread on the .9 changes for snipers

I'm really hopeing to get that deployed sniper (similar to AR) for urban sniping or support in citys with your squad.

I love sniping but sniping from hills is laughable seeing as you float 6 feet off the ground and appear so easily to anyone with a decent eye. Ultimately we need to get static mountains and or more clutter in the cities so that people can somewhat decently hide.

/end sniper change rant.

As for sniper squads, yes they are useless cause half the time they don't communicate with the commander and provide intel, which is the only reason a sniper squad can really be justified.

their KDR is also evidence seeing as I never see snipers with either many kills and a decent amount of deaths.

[bloodthirsty_viking]

i was in that round with you ivan, on the other team, i remember you saying it was our teams sniper, not yours, and then after half an hours to an hour, a admin finnaly step in to stop the arguing and kicked the noobs, but the argument was something like

sniper kits are assets, its squad calls asset, we get it, and scince i was on the other team, i only heard parts of it, but still... its annoying how peaple can say this stuff, and then have the good ppl kicked, make sure you just contact an admin asap, imformhim of the information, and tell him that you had the kit before the squad was made...

i once had a jet with my squad as infintry, only becuase both jets were siting on the runway. i sat at base untill my squad set up a lazer, then i got airbon, strafed and hit the target, and landed, and i then got told to join a newly formed jet squad that had no tw, but complaned that scince i was in the jet i had to be in there squad...

there is really nothing you can do about it, other then make a blacklist of sorts and make sure to tell your squad- admin if someone who makes truble often joins the server, so an admin is aware and ready.

[Meza82]

imho all assets and and sniper kits shouldbe in properly designated squad. a sniper in a INF or CAS or ARMOR squad makes no sense. it is wasting assets.

y does every like the sniper kit so much anyway?

[Herbiie]

Originally Posted by Meza82

y does every like the sniper kit so much anyway?

Most (not all) are 'Nilla noobs who thinks snipers are the single best thing in the world. These people don't tend to bother with the forums though

Also because of the (stupid) glamorous nature of Snipers due to films such as "Enemy At The Gates" portraying them as the ultimate power on the battlefield, sneaking around, occasionally staying still to fire a few shots off.

IRL a sniper sets up positions and waaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiittttts, then fires a shot or two then picks up his empty cases, and moves stealthily, then sets up position again and waaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiits, then fires a shot or two etc. etc.

[Heskey]

Originally Posted by [R-COM]Cheditor

Herbiie heskey already said in another post that he relocates.

Thanks Cheditor; seems to be more common these days that people don't like to read my posts fully but reply to them anyway

Herbiie, I don't like spotters because (some reasons already mentioned):

1.) Snipers have binocs (GLTD's now), so don't need someone to do it for them - Deviation isn't that much of a problem because I'm not a fan of 'blink-and-you'll-miss-them' targets; gotta take your time! Worst comes to worst, I just use the sniper scope.

2.) I know how boring it is to spend a round looking through some binocs whilst someone else gets kills etc, so I don't will it on others.

3.) Siloettes, increased chance of getting seen; having to worry about the movements and actions of your 'tag along' than those of your own. If I'm in woods on my own and hear footsteps, I can prepare; if I'm with a spotter and hear footsteps... It could be his, it could be the guy that didn't see me, but saw my spotter and gets me as a bonus too...

I'm just not a fan of spotters, I don't think they add anything to a sniper's ability; if you need to relocate you do it quietly and with stealth. If you absolutely have to kill someone you have a pistol or your rifle. Someone with an unsilenced semi-automatic trailing behind, if anything, is detrimental to a good sniper's work.

[Rudd]

Originally Posted by Meza82

y does every like the sniper kit so much anyway?

I love it when a good sniper is on my team telling us where stuff is and providing effective long range support from our rear.

A bad sniper is no different that som1 running off with a humvee or a HAT.

[Heskey]

Originally Posted by [R-CON]Rudd

I love it when a good sniper is on my team telling us where stuff is and providing effective long range support from our rear.

Amen.

I tend to operate behind their lines though to stop certain assets reaching the front line.

For instance, I'll tell the team when a tank in en route, or any vehicle in-fact...

But if they're relatively alone, or I think I can get away with it, I'll pop an Officer, Medic, Sniper or HAT, and the absolute BEST is when solo crewmen, or crewmen of a damage vehicle jump out of their vehicle for some reason (like to use a field dressing, to cut the engine, or survey their surroundings) aaaaaand POP. One big-ass vehicle now stranded in the middle of the battlefield, and any attempts to rescue it will result in similar head-popping.