Wait, what? (Apache and possibly others)

[Hunt3r]

I've noticed this a lot when landing and flying around in the Apache on training servers. Do the landing gear really work? If I do a landing like most do with the other helicopters (ie straight down), it seems like the thing rolls forward. It seems to preserve forward momentum, making a vertical landing impossible, like it is in real life.


Oh, and surprisingly, flying in Kashan as low as possible (almost literally touching the ground, choosing the lowest path possible) works quite well to avoid AA detection.

[Rudd]

You can taxi with teh apache, just press S and roll back

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

You can taxi with teh apache, just press S and roll back

I'd love to see it have proper taxiing, with turning.

[Rudd]

you can turn if you use the 'rudder' (can't remember what keyboard keys they are) and bank the aircraft at the same time to avoid it flipping over

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

you can turn if you use the 'rudder' (can't remember what keyboard keys they are) and bank the aircraft at the same time to avoid it flipping over

it doesn't seem to work for me.

Perhaps a movable tailwheel could be implemented for .9?

[AaronFraher]

Originally Posted by Hunt3r

If I do a landing like most do with the other helicopters (ie straight down), it seems like the thing rolls forward. It seems to preserve forward momentum, making a vertical landing impossible, like it is in real life.

Most of the time helicopters do not land vertically (By vertically i mean hovering 50 ft in the air and descending) . They make the approach with forward momentum, around 60-70 KIAS. Then they start to reduce the forward speed, then descend, while reducing the IAS even more. about 10-15 ft off the ground they flare, killing all remaining forward airspeed, and setting up the angle for a 3 point landing. If done correctly you should run out of forward airspeed as soon as the wheels touch the ground. I have never expierienced the gear carrying any forward momentum when i land this way.

[Alex6714]

Iirc landing vertically in real life is not only hard but can be dangerous.

[Elektro]

Originally Posted by Alex6714

Iirc landing vertically in real life is not only hard but can be dangerous.

So is hunting AAVs

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by AaronFraher

Most of the time helicopters do not land vertically (By vertically i mean hovering 50 ft in the air and descending) . They make the approach with forward momentum, around 60-70 KIAS. Then they start to reduce the forward speed, then descend, while reducing the IAS even more. about 10-15 ft off the ground they flare, killing all remaining forward airspeed, and setting up the angle for a 3 point landing. If done correctly you should run out of forward airspeed as soon as the wheels touch the ground. I have never expierienced the gear carrying any forward momentum when i land this way.

Well I obviously do that, but in training, after dumping 38 hydras into an AAV and smoking hard, it's somewhat hard to slow or turn when your rudder is gone and your Apache is shaking to hell. Landing the Apache requires more practice and training then all other choppers.

That, and I prefer to have the front wheels touch down before the rear wheel does. IRL it'd be safer. You wouldn't do a flat landing with tricycle gear, but you do with taildraggers.

[ralfidude]

you can safely roll in ur chopper without having to hover over ur pad.


BUT, as im very experienced in PRs flying, you can safely land on the pad vertically if you hover, and decrease ur collective slowly. If you try to yank the collective down with S you will gain some undesired momentum.

Its the same as having landed.

You cant keep the collective at 0%, you have to bring it up to about 40-50% to stop it from rolling foreward on the ground.

Its also the best way to land and do insertions if ur in a transport. People who land to 0% collective will notice that when they throttle up again to take off, it takes some time to actually lift off.
I try to land fast with a low collective percentage and throttle up to 40-50% when i touch down. Passengers get out within a sec and a half, and i can immediately take off if things get rough.



Anyway, the point is, you have to play around with ur collective to do things for now. I would STRONGLY suggest that you do not land vertically, but to master the rolling in landing.

Another option, if your the type of person that comes flying in at 5008376 miles per hour and yanks the joystick back to stop, is to come in flying fast and once ur over the airport coming in, decrease ur collective but maintain the angle of ur chopper parallel to the ground, you will descend and slow down drastically at the same time.

Then once ur over the helipad, you just adjust the collective and it lands beautifully and parallel with the ground, putting all wheels on the pad at the same time.

Its impressive too.