Whens the hotfix being released?

[z0MbA]

the new LMGs just force you to move through cover instead of running out and about free of worry in my opinion.

I'm fine with them but the only thing that i am bothered by is the new rally point system and also the deviation. i dont think battle stress and weapon sway should be represented by unrealistic deviation.

EDIT: and i want my ak47 accuracy increased

[gazzthompson]

Originally Posted by z0MbA

i dont think battle stress and weapon sway should be represented by unrealistic deviation.

how should it be represented then?

[[R-COM]Ragni<RangersPL>]

Couple words about rally points...

In previous versions of PR (before overrun was implemented) a rally point was used as a forward spawn point and in most situations was placed somewhere on a route between captured objective/main base/forward outpost and the next objective in AAS order.... and was safe most of the time, unless the enemy found it
After overrun was implemented that kind of rally point placement is most likely not going to work and there is a quite big chance of being overrun (especially if placed on a route between captured objective and next objective)... and it happens because if you move from captured objective to the next objective captured by the enemy then the enemy is doing exactly the opposite and is heading your way to the objective you just captured. To minimize the chance of overrun the rally point must be placed far away from the route between those two objectives or even further in the back behind captured objective where it is relatively safe on most maps... but, should it be used like that? Rear spawn point instead of forward spawn point I can't really say...

(I can provide a graphic explanation if I make it overcomplicated and I didn't make myself clear enough )

Maybe people complain about rally points because they get used to the previous system and place it in an unsafe location ... or maybe because rally point placed by full 6 man squad is too easy to overrun by 2 people just passing nearby... probably both reasons are true. Thinking about the way to improve it is better then complaining IMO...

[[R-CON]Tim270]

Originally Posted by gazzthompson

how should it be represented then?

Sway - Yes Battle stress - No


I like the rallies the way they are now, leads to less spawn camping and is a nice indication when you have got company and need to relocate

[z0MbA]

Originally Posted by gazzthompson

how should it be represented then?

i guess there isnt any other better way. maybe just ease up on the deviation a little.
Also, the blast radius of LATs is really small IMO

[Skodz]

lollll taking the LMG off. LOL

No way.

I enjoy it.

Originally Posted by [R-CON]Ragni<RangersPL>

Couple words about rally points...

In previous versions of PR (before overrun was implemented) a rally point was used as a forward spawn point and in most situations was placed somewhere on a route between captured objective/main base/forward outpost and the next objective in AAS order.... and was safe most of the time, unless the enemy found it
After overrun was implemented that kind of rally point placement is most likely not going to work and there is a quite big chance of being overrun (especially if placed on a route between captured objective and next objective)... and it happens because if you move from captured objective to the next objective captured by the enemy then the enemy is doing exactly the opposite and is heading your way to the objective you just captured. To minimize the chance of overrun the rally point must be placed far away from the route between those two objectives or even further in the back behind captured objective where it is relatively safe on most maps... but, should it be used like that? Rear spawn point instead of forward spawn point I can't really say...

(I can provide a graphic explanation if I make it overcomplicated and I didn't make myself clear enough )

Maybe people complain about rally points because they get used to the previous system and place it in an unsafe location ... or maybe because rally point placed by full 6 man squad is too easy to overrun by 2 people just passing nearby... probably both reasons are true. Thinking about the way to improve it is better then complaining IMO...

I actually think Rallypoint should be removed beside FOB and vehicle respawn time should be lowered. Nothing greater to 5 minutes so people "reinforcement" spawn at main base and must use transport to get back to the battle.

[Lord.Helmet]

Originally Posted by [R-CON]Ragni<RangersPL>

and it happens because if you move from captured objective to the next objective captured by the enemy then the enemy is doing exactly the opposite and is heading your way to the objective you just captured. To minimize the chance of overrun the rally point must be placed far away from the route between those two objectives or even further in the back behind captured objective where it is relatively safe on most maps...

How about the fact that, according to all of the"safe location" theories in this thread, the enemy is also looking for a "safe location" so they might just go in the same "safe location" than you and your rally is overrun instantly.

I think the new rally system is a step backward along with all the "2 squad members instead of 3" changes! Where in the hell is it supposed to favor teamwork?! I see a lot of 2 man locked squads these days!

Also, it really annoys me that 2 lonewolf being 100m from each other and not in the same squad can overun my rallypoint where my whole squad is standing. That doesn't make any sense to me. Sure that could've happended in 0.85 but it was a lot less likely! And btw, I don't think we can say that, having 2 lonewolf, 100m from each other,near my whole squad and my rallypoint, is a "compromised" location...

There are a couple of other things from 0.86 that I don't like but I do understand the changes and I'll get used to it... but the new RP system and the "2 squad members instead of 3" changes need to be reverted to what they were.

[IAJTHOMAS]

Originally Posted by Tim270

Sway - Yes Battle stress - No

Weapon sway is impossible (other than visually, there is no practical effect). Did you really think that dev's though deviation and a still scope was the ideal solution to the issue and chose it over weapon sway?

[Leeu]

Here here, 05grottim.


Also, wtf is with the hideouts/forward outposts becoming unspawnable when "2 people are close by". Seems that "close by" is 150m which is fking ridiculous.

Either way whatever the hell the distance value is, what's the use of a hideout on insurgency if it's over run once BLUFOR are even remotely nearby... wait a minute that makes sense-> The hideout's over run... no one can spawn hence the cache is undefended... add to that the new lazer M249 for BLUFOR, AK and RPG nerfing for insurgents etc etc and it all makes perfect sense. Yeah 0.86 rocks!

[[R-DEV]crazy11]

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