.50 cal vs helo's - Page 4

cplgangster · 03-18-2009, 09:33 AM

yeh i also read in apache dawn (book based on events from the pilots of flight ugly in iraq or afgan cant remember witch) who fly the apache and they say that it can with stand 1 23mm round then thats all you would want really any more and your in the s*it really.

I also thought that the .50 cal is meant to be accurate at over 1000m irl but i am not sure of this its only what i have heard on various things. I see nothing wrong with how it is now. If the pilots are good enough then you shouldnt get taken down by .50cal fire if you see the tracer coming past your windows then try some evasive manouvering can be difficult but if done right you should make it out alive.

Also tbh i think if a huge .50cal round went tearing through metal i think you would hear something especially if some equipment was hit but then again im not a pilot so this is all asumptions.

rampo · 03-18-2009, 11:13 AM

whaaa!? u never seen a chopper taken down by fiftys in PR??? whaaaa!? dear god thats the most common way i get shot by!

Kruder · 03-18-2009, 11:22 AM

No decent pilot is shot down unless hovering/on the ground/flying towards 0.50 cal/caught in very low speed.And if you or your team are not careful enough to spot the technical 100 meters away from your LZ you deserve to die.

Finally withstanding 123mm does not mean anything,i mean how much punishment can a BH take in general?Does anyone know,what does that mean?One bullet,a few?Obviously not 50-100 rounds.

Conclusion its find as it is,just give more flares to AC or nerf the noob friendly AAs.

TPM-TWISTED- · 03-18-2009, 11:34 AM

I haven't been playing PR that long, but I've played long enough to see good pilots that rarely get shot down or even hit by much more than one or two guys spraying small arms from a distance. I've also seen guys think they can play like they're in a Vietnam movie and set their chopper down in an area surrounded by bad guys, take multiple hits and think they'll be fine.

The game is fine. The play is bad (sometimes).

spartan117gw · 03-18-2009, 03:13 PM

yo . pfc wong here, heli's are tough. but thier compact with sensitive and fine tune parts. a burst from a 50 will damage a helo. any more and u wont be flying. the 50 cal was designed to kill tanks in ww1. it killed aircraft and hell. anything in ww2. and we still field it today because its one bad mofo that jus dont quite. and if a 50 cal round passes within 6 inches of you itl tear ur flesh off. a direct hit = pink mist. a helo is light and sensitive to truama. itl shred a helo if it gets enough good hits.

EmBra · 03-18-2009, 07:28 PM

I doubt pilots (IRL) would drop off people 100-200m from enemy lines, in PR (which is a game

) people don't want to spend an hour going by foot to the flag, hence the pilots often drop them close to the front (within combat range of MGs).

When it comes to attack helicopters it's abit different, They are forced to be close to the targets (within MG/APC attackrange) because of viewdistance not allowing them to sipp around at 4km distance

They can withstand moderate MG fire enough though to do evasive manoeuvres and fly back to base to repair. Old rusty APCs killing them in 0.5 seconds on the other hand...

Salah ad Din · 03-18-2009, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spartan117gw

and if a 50 cal round passes within 6 inches of you itl tear ur flesh off

Source?

shifty66 · 03-18-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spartan117gw

yo . pfc wong here, heli's are tough. but thier compact with sensitive and fine tune parts. a burst from a 50 will damage a helo. any more and u wont be flying. the 50 cal was designed to kill tanks in ww1. it killed aircraft and hell. anything in ww2. and we still field it today because its one bad mofo that jus dont quite. and if a 50 cal round passes within 6 inches of you itl tear ur flesh off. a direct hit = pink mist. a helo is light and sensitive to truama. itl shred a helo if it gets enough good hits.

What corp you in mate?

sentinel · 03-18-2009, 08:34 PM

Are you kidding me? Shooting down low flying helos is what they are designed for. Most .50 cal or 14.7mm are accurate over 1000 meters ironsights or scoped, it makes no difference. The reason why the helos get shot down is because they simply fly too low and too deep into hostile territory.

amazing_retard · 03-18-2009, 09:52 PM

How come every time I visit this forum, I see more and more posts, about helo pilots wanting to be invincible. How about this, when you encounter a 50 cal, you break off and force him into a reflection shot? Use the terrain as cover, and fly low and fast. Don't attempt to simply pass a 50 cal, take evasive maneuvers. Don't fix something that simply isn't broken....

03-18-2009, 09:33 AM	#31
cplgangster Join Date: Jul 2007 United Kingdom Location: london Posts: 1,169	Re: .50 cal vs helo's yeh i also read in apache dawn (book based on events from the pilots of flight ugly in iraq or afgan cant remember witch) who fly the apache and they say that it can with stand 1 23mm round then thats all you would want really any more and your in the s*it really. I also thought that the .50 cal is meant to be accurate at over 1000m irl but i am not sure of this its only what i have heard on various things. I see nothing wrong with how it is now. If the pilots are good enough then you shouldnt get taken down by .50cal fire if you see the tracer coming past your windows then try some evasive manouvering can be difficult but if done right you should make it out alive. Also tbh i think if a huge .50cal round went tearing through metal i think you would hear something especially if some equipment was hit but then again im not a pilot so this is all asumptions.
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03-18-2009, 11:22 AM	#33
Kruder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Istanbul Posts: 802	Re: .50 cal vs helo's No decent pilot is shot down unless hovering/on the ground/flying towards 0.50 cal/caught in very low speed.And if you or your team are not careful enough to spot the technical 100 meters away from your LZ you deserve to die. Finally withstanding 123mm does not mean anything,i mean how much punishment can a BH take in general?Does anyone know,what does that mean?One bullet,a few?Obviously not 50-100 rounds. Conclusion its find as it is,just give more flares to AC or nerf the noob friendly AAs.
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03-18-2009, 11:34 AM	#34
TPM-TWISTED- Join Date: Jan 2009 United States of America Posts: 11	Re: .50 cal vs helo's I haven't been playing PR that long, but I've played long enough to see good pilots that rarely get shot down or even hit by much more than one or two guys spraying small arms from a distance. I've also seen guys think they can play like they're in a Vietnam movie and set their chopper down in an area surrounded by bad guys, take multiple hits and think they'll be fine. The game is fine. The play is bad (sometimes).

03-18-2009, 03:13 PM	#35
spartan117gw Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 202	Re: .50 cal vs helo's yo . pfc wong here, heli's are tough. but thier compact with sensitive and fine tune parts. a burst from a 50 will damage a helo. any more and u wont be flying. the 50 cal was designed to kill tanks in ww1. it killed aircraft and hell. anything in ww2. and we still field it today because its one bad mofo that jus dont quite. and if a 50 cal round passes within 6 inches of you itl tear ur flesh off. a direct hit = pink mist. a helo is light and sensitive to truama. itl shred a helo if it gets enough good hits.
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03-18-2009, 07:28 PM	#36
EmBra Join Date: Jan 2009 Sweden Posts: 67	Re: .50 cal vs helo's I doubt pilots (IRL) would drop off people 100-200m from enemy lines, in PR (which is a game ) people don't want to spend an hour going by foot to the flag, hence the pilots often drop them close to the front (within combat range of MGs). When it comes to attack helicopters it's abit different, They are forced to be close to the targets (within MG/APC attackrange) because of viewdistance not allowing them to sipp around at 4km distance They can withstand moderate MG fire enough though to do evasive manoeuvres and fly back to base to repair. Old rusty APCs killing them in 0.5 seconds on the other hand...
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03-18-2009, 08:34 PM	#39
sentinel Join Date: Jul 2008 Finland Posts: 110	Re: .50 cal vs helo's Are you kidding me? Shooting down low flying helos is what they are designed for. Most .50 cal or 14.7mm are accurate over 1000 meters ironsights or scoped, it makes no difference. The reason why the helos get shot down is because they simply fly too low and too deep into hostile territory.
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03-18-2009, 09:52 PM	#40
amazing_retard Join Date: Oct 2008 United States of America Location: chicago Posts: 380	Re: .50 cal vs helo's How come every time I visit this forum, I see more and more posts, about helo pilots wanting to be invincible. How about this, when you encounter a 50 cal, you break off and force him into a reflection shot? Use the terrain as cover, and fly low and fast. Don't attempt to simply pass a 50 cal, take evasive maneuvers. Don't fix something that simply isn't broken....

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