.50 cal vs helo's

[Rudd]

I thought of that and went back and changed it. Though you don't need experience to know that if none of the rounds hit anything important that it will stay in flight.

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I talked to a Lynx pilot we all know and he said that a .50 will take down a heli in seconds.

that assumption lasted a long time. XD

[Spaz]

Well I'm sure that if you shoot rounds into the door (like someone said) it should have no problem staying airborne for a long time but apparently you don't need many hits in the tail or engine for it to go down. And being hit in the cockpit can't be good.

[Anhkhoa]

Originally Posted by Solid Knight

A BlackHawk can withstand an infinite number of hits from a .50 cal should the rounds all hit the same exact spot in the door.

If a Blackhawk took infinite rounds in the same spot it wouldn't last forever. One bullet would make a hole another would use that hole to make another deeper hole....and then the guys inside would be ripped to shreds.= D

[Solid Knight]

Originally Posted by Anhkhoa

If a Blackhawk took infinite rounds in the same spot it wouldn't last forever. One bullet would make a hole another would use that hole to make another deeper hole....and then the guys inside would be ripped to shreds.= D

Doesn't matter if it penetrates the door (it will). If nothing critical is hit there is no reason for the helicopter to crash. The answer to "how many shots does it take to kill a helicopter" is "it depends on where you hit it". Shooting up the doors will do nothing to a helicopter. Shooting up the engines will.

It's like saying "how many shots does it take to stop a car". I could pump rounds into the rear doors of the car all day long and the thing will keep going so long as the engine isn't damaged.

My post was intended to illustrate this. You could infinitely hit non-critical parts of the helicopter--albeit there is a finite amount of non-critical areas.

[Engineer]

You'd probably get the same result with 7,62 as well.

I'm not a pilot, but I will make a dangerous assumption here. The cover used is not made to last bullets, it's made to absorb radar signals and reduce IR signature. The bulletproof glasses and such are there mostly to withstand the impact of flying objects such as birds. Which I believe is a standard even in civilian aviation...

So yes, any bullet fired upon a chopper is probably extremely dangerous.

I'm glad if someone corrects me.

EDIT

After googling a bit, I found this article: http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-Helo-Mar-05-P.pdf

Haven't really read it yet, but it certainly looks interesting. Especially the page 4 which explains the redundant systems of a Blackhawk.

[Mora]

The problem is on both sides, the choppers are to weak against .50 cal bullets. I mean sure the chopper wouldn't stand too much of them but sure 25 wouldn't kill it. And only on crucial points such as the cockpit or the tale rotar.

And the mounted .50 cal is way to accurate. It can hit anything upto max view distance, without missing.

[Alex6714]

Originally Posted by crazyasian11

in PR Eddie...

I am pretty sure that if a pilot flew like how pilots fly in PR, they would get shot down.

If pilots could fly realistically in PR there would be nothing wrong.


I don´t hve a problem with the .50, I think it should be the insurgents main AA weapon instead of SA-7s for added realism, and especially balance. Many other things have to be changed though but thats for another thread.

The main problem imo is not the amount of rounds it takes to kill you, but the fact that you have no idea you are getting shot until the last round. Tbh you should be able to hear a projectile hitting your helicopter like that, at least on the first few of them.

[Rudd]

Tbh you should be able to hear a projectile hitting your helicopter like that, at least on the first few of them.

this is indeed a big problem, the sound in the choppers is very odd, once or twice I've flown around and I only realised I was under fire when a big green tracer zipped past my face

[Oak]

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

this is indeed a big problem, the sound in the choppers is very odd, once or twice I've flown around and I only realised I was under fire when a big green tracer zipped past my face

I wouldn't say it isn't realistic - considering the amount of noise you have in a real chopper and the fact that thing moves all the time, I wouldn't say it's that surprising not being able to hear small-arms hits.

[bkandor]

Here is a bit on the apache airframe: (built to withstand 23mm rounds)

Combat helicopters face many threats in their environment, most notably from surface-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft artillery. The AH-64 has been designed with survival mind. To increase resistance to ground-fire, the airframe of the Apache is made up of flat structural surfaces, reinforced by armour. From nearly every angle, the opposing projectile will face a strong, blunt surface which it must breach in order to damage the fuselage.
More critical areas of the Apache - the rotor, engines, and cockpit area - are designed to be able to withstand hits from 23mm rounds. In addition to the armoured fuselage, aircraft systems are protected by Kevlar, the light-weight material providing additional protection while keeping the weight down. The twin engines are mounted in pods along either side of the airframe. This separation reduces the chances of a single hit damaging both engines. The cheek-fairings on either side of the forward fuselage reduce cockpit exposure to ground-fire, while providing additional space for avionics equipment