Lack of BMP-3's.

~~sakils2~~ · 01-30-2009, 04:16 PM

I really enjoy this release(especially INS mode and the deviation: PEW PEW).

Almost everything is perfect for me. The downside, though, is the lack of the BMP-3's on maps such as Muttrah, Jabal.(Not a big, though, I rarely play any other mode besides INS)

For example Jabal: USMC get 4 LAV's at the start, MEC get a crappy BDRM-2, although, 4 BTR-60 spawns after 10 minutes. BUT, LAV's have a lot more firepower. Of course MEC's have Rifleman AT kits and H-AT,but... USMC have those, too.

I have only tested Jabal at the moment, but I think the situation is quite the same on Muttrah.

I would to know your opinion on this subject. Should MEC's get a BMP-3, how would the BMP-3 unfluent gameplay etc.

P.S. Please no suggestions, this is not the place for them

Thank you DEV's, testers and all the people who helped to improve PR- the best mod out there!

ghostt888 · 01-30-2009, 05:09 PM

Well a BMP-3M's Armour is light enough to not be able to withstand the LAV-25 25mm cannon and has a smaller troop capacity if i am not mistaken, but makes up for it with its increase in fire power and stability as well as off road performance. So if MEC got one on top of the BTR-60 and BRDM-2 with their 14.5mm HMG it would be fair in my opinion.

Saarna · 01-30-2009, 05:21 PM

Not to take a stance on wether to implement more BMP's or not, the BTR-60 is actually far from lacking in firepower. We've tested it pretty extensively, and in a straight up firefight, the BTR knocks out the LAV with ease. While the latter might do more damage initially, its cannon overheats quickly and stays inoperable long enough for the slowest BTR gunner to pound it out with the 14,5mm.

jbgeezer · 01-30-2009, 05:27 PM

Give back the BTR90

crazy11 · 01-30-2009, 06:28 PM

The BMP-3 would be overkill against the LAV.

Zerapup · 01-30-2009, 06:39 PM

BMP-3 will oneshot LAV with its main cannon.

Scot · 01-30-2009, 06:40 PM

Way I see it:

BMP 3 = Bradley

BTR ~ LAV

BDRM ~ Stryker

It seems fair enough IMO.

(~ stands for approximately equal to)

Outlawz7 · 01-30-2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scot

BTR ~ LAV

Yes, but which BTR? 60 or 90?

gclark03 · 01-30-2009, 06:58 PM

60, of course.

DankE_SPB · 01-30-2009, 07:22 PM

played jabal twice as MEC, BTR-60 sucks against LAV, you need nearly 100-150 hits from KPVT to frontal armor of LAV to kill it if it was fully repaired, another example nearly 40 hits to back and its still alive
imo, US should have less LAV's

01-30-2009, 04:16 PM	#1
~~sakils2~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,378 Latvia Location: Riga, Latvia\| Northern Europe	Lack of BMP-3's. I really enjoy this release(especially INS mode and the deviation: PEW PEW). Almost everything is perfect for me. The downside, though, is the lack of the BMP-3's on maps such as Muttrah, Jabal.(Not a big, though, I rarely play any other mode besides INS) For example Jabal: USMC get 4 LAV's at the start, MEC get a crappy BDRM-2, although, 4 BTR-60 spawns after 10 minutes. BUT, LAV's have a lot more firepower. Of course MEC's have Rifleman AT kits and H-AT,but... USMC have those, too. I have only tested Jabal at the moment, but I think the situation is quite the same on Muttrah. I would to know your opinion on this subject. Should MEC's get a BMP-3, how would the BMP-3 unfluent gameplay etc. P.S. Please no suggestions, this is not the place for them Thank you DEV's, testers and all the people who helped to improve PR- the best mod out there!

01-30-2009, 05:09 PM	#2
ghostt888 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8 Canada Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada	Re: Lack of BMP-3's. Well a BMP-3M's Armour is light enough to not be able to withstand the LAV-25 25mm cannon and has a smaller troop capacity if i am not mistaken, but makes up for it with its increase in fire power and stability as well as off road performance. So if MEC got one on top of the BTR-60 and BRDM-2 with their 14.5mm HMG it would be fair in my opinion.

01-30-2009, 05:21 PM	#3
Saarna Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 68 Finland	Re: Lack of BMP-3's. Not to take a stance on wether to implement more BMP's or not, the BTR-60 is actually far from lacking in firepower. We've tested it pretty extensively, and in a straight up firefight, the BTR knocks out the LAV with ease. While the latter might do more damage initially, its cannon overheats quickly and stays inoperable long enough for the slowest BTR gunner to pound it out with the 14,5mm.
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01-30-2009, 05:27 PM	#4
jbgeezer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 881 Norway Location: Norway	Re: Lack of BMP-3's. Give back the BTR90
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01-30-2009, 06:28 PM	#5
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01-30-2009, 06:39 PM	#6
Zerapup Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 219 Russian Federation Location: Moscow	Re: Lack of BMP-3's. BMP-3 will oneshot LAV with its main cannon.

01-30-2009, 06:40 PM	#7
Scot Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,365 United Kingdom Location: In da hood	Re: Lack of BMP-3's. Way I see it: BMP 3 = Bradley BTR ~ LAV BDRM ~ Stryker It seems fair enough IMO. (~ stands for approximately equal to)
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01-30-2009, 06:58 PM	#9
gclark03 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,600 United States of America Location: You can't get here from there	Re: Lack of BMP-3's. 60, of course.

01-30-2009, 07:22 PM	#10
DankE_SPB Retired PR Developer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,673 Russian Federation Location: Teh Bearland Blog Entries: 1	Re: Lack of BMP-3's. played jabal twice as MEC, BTR-60 sucks against LAV, you need nearly 100-150 hits from KPVT to frontal armor of LAV to kill it if it was fully repaired, another example nearly 40 hits to back and its still alive imo, US should have less LAV's
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