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Old 01-30-2009, 08:09 PM   #11
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Default Re: Lack of BMP-3's.

But you need 3 times bigger force when attacking. So mec has usually a bigger chance to win


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Old 01-30-2009, 08:28 PM   #12
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Default Re: Lack of BMP-3's.

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Yes, but which BTR? 60 or 90?
And the award for the question with most obvious answer goes too.....


Yes, it is the BTR-60, and like Crazy said, it is waayy overkill against the LAVs, not to mention the BMP-3 takes like 3 tank rounds to kill on some occasions!


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Old 01-31-2009, 09:32 AM   #13
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Way I see it:

BMP 3 = Bradley

BTR ~ LAV

BDRM ~ Stryker

It seems fair enough IMO.

(~ stands for approximately equal to)
Nope,
BTR-60 ~ Stryker

BTR-90 ~ LAV-25

BRDM has no counterpart. Its an armoured car, not an APC/IFV. You use it to find the enemy and relay the location to other vehicles. Dont use the scout vehicle to engage armour.
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Old 01-31-2009, 09:46 AM   #14
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Noooo...surely not? In my experience the BTR-90 beats the **** out of the LAV-25. Cannon fires much faster and I think the BTR-90 is tougher too. The BTR-60 is more like equal, and would pwn a Stryker.

And a question...is the Stryker bullet-proof against .50 rounds? I thought the BDRM-2 was - I quickly discovered otherwise!

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Old 01-31-2009, 11:00 AM   #15
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Default Re: Lack of BMP-3's.

Yes, the Stryker is bulletproof. After all, it's an APC (the 'A' standing for 'armoured') and comparable to the BTR-60. The BRDM-2 has the same kind of protection as the Humvee and should not be used for transporting infantry.

As Johnny said, it's a scout vehicle and has no NATO/US equivalent in PR.

And I agree that the USMC should use less LAVs. Give them that ugly amphibious thingy you often see in combat videos from Iraq (AAV - something) on maps like Muttrah and Jabal, with a very limited amout of LAVs as IFV-support.
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:27 AM   #16
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Default Re: Lack of BMP-3's.

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Noooo...surely not? In my experience the BTR-90 beats the **** out of the LAV-25. Cannon fires much faster and I think the BTR-90 is tougher too. The BTR-60 is more like equal, and would pwn a Stryker.

And a question...is the Stryker bullet-proof against .50 rounds? I thought the BDRM-2 was - I quickly discovered otherwise!

Stu.
Both feature a large troop capacity, similar cannons, similar coaxial weapon, same role, both amphibious. And they look very similar too.

Now if thats not enough to make it the counterpart to the LAV 25 then no vehicle can be described as a counterpart to anything opposing it.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:19 PM   #17
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Noooo...surely not? In my experience the BTR-90 beats the **** out of the LAV-25. Cannon fires much faster and I think the BTR-90 is tougher too. The BTR-60 is more like equal, and would pwn a Stryker.

And a question...is the Stryker bullet-proof against .50 rounds? I thought the BDRM-2 was - I quickly discovered otherwise!

Stu.
Yes it should have 100% protection up to 12.7x50mm rounds, but the BRDM-2 has a KPV that fire 14.5x115mm rounds so that has the potential to pierce a Strykers armor.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:38 PM   #18
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Default Re: Lack of BMP-3's.

Personally, I think we should get something other than the AP rounds for the KPV users. Other rounds DO exist...

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