APC - Fighting Vehicle or Personal Carrier?

[daranz]

IFVs do have big autocannons mounted for a reason, that reason being infantry support. Mechanized infantry is trained to operate with IFV support. I wouldn't really want to see APCs that are just glorified trucks with some more armor bolted on. As it is now, APCs/IFVs work very well when employed in ways that they get employed in real life. They are also more vulnerable when operating alone, as opposed to operating with infantry support.

The main problem is getting people to expect APC transport, and getting APCs to transport people.

[NyteMyre]

Originally Posted by daranz

The main problem is getting people to expect APC transport, and getting APCs to transport people.

And infantry to support APC's.
Forgot to mention, but when I drive/gun a APC, I like to stick close to a squad, but most of those squads find it a nuisance and think i'm there to steal kills and most of the time move away from the APC.

[=]H[=Viper]

1. Squadleader - Officer
2. Medic
3. Engineer
4. Light AT
5. APC Driver
6. APC Gunner.

This is the way it should be done!

[Waaah_Wah]

The reason why i dont like to be a member of an infantry squad when in APCs is the attack marker. Seriously, that thing is invaluable when APCing.

I do on the other hand try to transport inf as much as a can, but they often have humvees/trucks to drive in so they dont get in...

[Scandicci]

I just ran a mixed APC Infantry squad on Seven Gates on the British side of the 10th Mountains Server.

The layout was

1. SL (Scandicci)
2. APC Gunner (Deathflesh)
3. APC Driver (Lord Alroar(
4. Engineer (Gabes)
5. Medic (PeteGlory)
6. Rifleman (Chunga)

I kept the APC back until we had targets and we were relatively sure that there were no serious threats to the APC. I put attack markers on the hostile troops moving to River Fort, the APC would roll up, engage the attack marker and then move back. This sort of use of the APC is extremely effective. Later we assualted and secured the outpost using the APC at a medium standoff distance that softened up the objective with high explosive rounds while we walked up to take the flag. We got to the top of the Outpost structure and there were just a bunch of dead Opfor. The guys in the squad have to be disciplined. The APC driver has to stay put and only engage when the SL and squad members have identified targets and are sure that the APC is not over committing itself.

[[R-DEV]Outlawz7]

Why move slowly and support infantry, when you can do 60 Km/h and kill enemies on the go and run over a poor bastard here and there and no AT can get a shot on you and you probably killed all the guys that had the five AT kits in existence anyway.
Anyone thought of that?

[Skodz]

Originally Posted by [R-COM]Outlawz

Why move slowly and support infantry, when you can do 60 Km/h and kill enemies on the go and run over a poor bastard here and there and no AT can get a shot on you and you probably killed all the guys that had the five AT kits in existence anyway.
Anyone thought of that?

You can move fast supporting infantry... The point is to work together. You do not always need to be 10 meters away from the allied infantry to support them. And, I enjoy a lot having a APC or Tank supporting me when I play infantry or to support a infantry squad when I play armor.

[Blakeman]

Originally Posted by [R-COM]Outlawz

Why move slowly and support infantry, when you can do 60 Km/h and kill enemies on the go and run over a poor bastard here and there and no AT can get a shot on you and you probably killed all the guys that had the five AT kits in existence anyway.
Anyone thought of that?

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1. They can hear you coming and prepare.
2. The LAT guy is always the one you cant seem to run over.
3. The LAT guy is usually the one you dont see at all.
4. It has speed to get infantry to positions and to escape, not for speedracer
5. Hard to avoid mines at 60kph around blind turns.

APCs and IFVs are for mechanized infantry, not for going off on their own and 'pwning newbs'.

I have noticed that many vehicles do not use a hull down type of placement and often sit on top of a hill/mountain/ridge where they can easily be seen.

[Waaah_Wah]

Originally Posted by [R-COM]Outlawz

Why move slowly and support infantry, when you can do 60 Km/h and kill enemies on the go and run over a poor bastard here and there and no AT can get a shot on you and you probably killed all the guys that had the five AT kits in existence anyway.
Anyone thought of that?

Exactly!

Originally Posted by Blakeman

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1. They can hear you coming and prepare. If everything happends quickly they will never get the chanse...
2. The LAT guy is always the one you cant seem to run over. Not when im the LAT guy
3. The LAT guy is usually the one you dont see at all.
4. It has speed to get infantry to positions and to escape, not for speedracer It also has the speed and firepower to quickly kill off an enemy squad before they realise what hit them.
5. Hard to avoid mines at 60kph around blind turns. Not really...

APCs and IFVs are for mechanized infantry, not for going off on their own and 'pwning newbs'.

I have noticed that many vehicles do not use a hull down type of placement and often sit on top of a hill/mountain/ridge where they can easily be seen.

In red

[Truism]

APCs are used as IFV's in PR because they firepower they so vastly outgun most AT.

Basically it's a byproduct of the long standing Infantry/Armour imbalance.