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Old 11-12-2008, 01:24 AM   #1
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Default Getting hit from anti air missiles that weren't fired at you

This is so irritating and completly unpredictable. I don't know how realistic it is.

I'm hovering on the corner of the map in Muttrah, confident that I'm in a safe zone then all of a sudden BEEP BEEP BOOM.

Someone flared, and the Anti Air missile missed them, and then hit me.

This has happened so many times. This should be fixed I think =/
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:39 AM   #2
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This is so irritating and completly unpredictable. I don't know how realistic it is.

I'm hovering on the corner of the map in Muttrah, confident that I'm in a safe zone then all of a sudden BEEP BEEP BOOM.

Someone flared, and the Anti Air missile missed them, and then hit me.

This has happened so many times. This should be fixed I think =/
To be honnest whit you, that add realism... a the second the missile get away from launcher it turn on is own seeker. And if the missile miss, it will lock on nearest target.


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Old 11-12-2008, 02:07 AM   #3
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This is so irritating and completly unpredictable. I don't know how realistic it is.

I'm hovering on the corner of the map in Muttrah, confident that I'm in a safe zone then all of a sudden BEEP BEEP BOOM.

Someone flared, and the Anti Air missile missed them, and then hit me.

This has happened so many times. This should be fixed I think =/
I think I under stand him the missle has locked onto a flare and gone right through the flare and continued on to lock onto another target when it should of detnoated when it hit the flare


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Old 11-12-2008, 02:19 AM   #4
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I think I under stand him the missle has locked onto a flare and gone right through the flare and continued on to lock onto another target when it should of detnoated when it hit the flare
I don't know about it detonating on flares, because from what I'm reading right now the SA-7 detonates on impact. However it flying to another heat source and that heat source being another helicopter a good distance away seems very wack and unrealistic.


Furthermore, since the PR maps are greatly scaled down, it's only fair the range of the SA-7 should be scaled down as well. After all, its a short range, low altitude missile.


Edit: ALSO I'm reading that infarered, heat seeking missiles like the SA-7 have a field of view of only 1-2 degrees, so it swerving to hit another aircraft is even more unlikely.
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Old 11-12-2008, 03:52 AM   #5
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The IR seeker of warhead has only limited 'sight' in a nose cone, not to mention the possible laser measured close-range detonation modes and 10-15 second after-launch self destruct times. The gas (Argon for example) that is used to cool the seeker to make it possible to lock on targets is usually 'injected' at the launch zone, so the capacity of selecting and finding another target on flight instantly is significantly lower.

Realistically, It is highly unlikely that once a IR missile has been launched it will find another, real target. The missile doesn't have 360' sight and maneuverability.

But I suppose this is the way BF2 engine will handle things.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:03 AM   #6
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Most missiles in PR implement lead pursuit in real life anyway, trying to intercept the target instead of going directly for the biggest source of heat available. The guidance systems are relatively simple in such missiles, using proportional navigation, meaning the missile tries to keep the target on the same bearing as it flies for the intercept point. If it can't do that, it goes dumb and eventually self-destructs.


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Old 11-12-2008, 04:27 AM   #7
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Most missiles in PR implement lead pursuit in real life anyway, trying to intercept the target instead of going directly for the biggest source of heat available. The guidance systems are relatively simple in such missiles, using proportional navigation, meaning the missile tries to keep the target on the same bearing as it flies for the intercept point. If it can't do that, it goes dumb and eventually self-destructs.
The missiles turn rates/speed/proximity fuze are an attempt to make up for the lack of proportional pursuit.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:16 AM   #8
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Do the missiles detonate when they hit flares?
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:19 AM   #9
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Probaly not or not everytime.


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Old 11-12-2008, 11:13 AM   #10
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Do the missiles detonate when they hit flares?
As far as I know, no.

"And in the PR world ALL nations signed the treaty, now there "
"Today's forecast calls for 30mm HE rain with a slight chance of hellfires"


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oh, they're fire and forget all right...they're fired then they forget where the target is
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