apaches cannon dispursion?

~~ralfidude~~ · 08-09-2008, 03:21 PM

I know the apache is under work for .8 but im still iffy about the cannon... its not very realistic to the real thing. Arma has gone and made it very very much like it is. Im only talking abotu how the bullets are not hittign exactly where ur aiming at, this vid shows how its "about" in the general area of ur cursor.

YouTube - Armed Assault - AH-64 FLIR Gun Cam #2

YouTube - Armed Assault - AH-64 Apache Gun Cam

Mora · 08-09-2008, 04:22 PM

The zoom levels on Arma always bugs me, the zoom goes in stages not like a zooming photo camera. Anyway i guess it could use some spread don't know about the bullet drop. Hud definitely needs a change and get rid of the stupit static.

Spaz · 08-09-2008, 04:55 PM

This is something I been thinking about to.

MarineSeaknight · 08-09-2008, 05:09 PM

Along with dispursion of rounds, as seen in my attached video, I'd also like to see the camera shake when firing off the rounds:

YouTube - Apache 30mm Gun Cam Engagement Iraq

Conman51 · 08-09-2008, 05:57 PM

yea the shaking cam would be nice... i think they something like it on the apc

~~ralfidude~~ · 08-10-2008, 12:40 AM

Oh yeah i forgot about the shaking. THat last video from seaking shows an even greater spread, but i think its got to do with how high the gunship was, that one seems to be very high up in alt right there. But its something that needs to be implemented, no more gunship sniping, its ridiculous.

Mora · 08-10-2008, 07:11 AM

Thing is the apache gun is very accurate but not while on the move if the apache hovers he can almost make head shots :P

In pr we cannot simulate this. Or we can as when the apache moves its very hard to hit any targets without any kind of stabilization and even when there was stabilization it would still be very hard to do.

Razick · 08-10-2008, 08:01 PM

Im fairly sure that they are firing from stand off range. Were talking upwards of two miles. Best PR can do is half a mile. Most gunships do not get nearly as close as they you would normally in game.

NickO · 08-10-2008, 08:14 PM

The cannon would be useless if this was implemented in PR. Also in PR the cannon is probably 10x more inaccurate than that unless you hover which means that it becomes Very easy for ground forces to take you out.

~~ralfidude~~ · 08-10-2008, 11:11 PM

Well... i dont know, but from what iv seen the dispursion is huge. All the gunships do nowadays is just sit ontop of the clouds and rain hell with cannon and missiles too effectively. At that range we should give more deviation. Wont render it useless.

Oh i also found a perfect HUD video for cobra, i was looking for something like this for many weeks.

YouTube - AH-1W rockets and gun during Cobra Gold

08-09-2008, 03:21 PM	#1
~~ralfidude~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,120	apaches cannon dispursion? I know the apache is under work for .8 but im still iffy about the cannon... its not very realistic to the real thing. Arma has gone and made it very very much like it is. Im only talking abotu how the bullets are not hittign exactly where ur aiming at, this vid shows how its "about" in the general area of ur cursor. YouTube - Armed Assault - AH-64 FLIR Gun Cam #2 YouTube - Armed Assault - AH-64 Apache Gun Cam

08-09-2008, 04:22 PM	#2
Mora Join Date: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 2,621	Re: apaches cannon dispursion? The zoom levels on Arma always bugs me, the zoom goes in stages not like a zooming photo camera. Anyway i guess it could use some spread don't know about the bullet drop. Hud definitely needs a change and get rid of the stupit static.
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08-09-2008, 05:09 PM	#4
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08-10-2008, 12:40 AM	#6
~~ralfidude~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,120	Re: apaches cannon dispursion? Oh yeah i forgot about the shaking. THat last video from seaking shows an even greater spread, but i think its got to do with how high the gunship was, that one seems to be very high up in alt right there. But its something that needs to be implemented, no more gunship sniping, its ridiculous.

08-10-2008, 07:11 AM	#7
Mora Join Date: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 2,621	Re: apaches cannon dispursion? Thing is the apache gun is very accurate but not while on the move if the apache hovers he can almost make head shots :P In pr we cannot simulate this. Or we can as when the apache moves its very hard to hit any targets without any kind of stabilization and even when there was stabilization it would still be very hard to do.
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08-10-2008, 08:01 PM	#8
Razick Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401	Re: apaches cannon dispursion? Im fairly sure that they are firing from stand off range. Were talking upwards of two miles. Best PR can do is half a mile. Most gunships do not get nearly as close as they you would normally in game.
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08-10-2008, 08:14 PM	#9
NickO Join Date: May 2007 Sweden Location: Gothenburg Posts: 1,452	Re: apaches cannon dispursion? The cannon would be useless if this was implemented in PR. Also in PR the cannon is probably 10x more inaccurate than that unless you hover which means that it becomes Very easy for ground forces to take you out.
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08-10-2008, 11:11 PM	#10
~~ralfidude~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,120	Re: apaches cannon dispursion? Well... i dont know, but from what iv seen the dispursion is huge. All the gunships do nowadays is just sit ontop of the clouds and rain hell with cannon and missiles too effectively. At that range we should give more deviation. Wont render it useless. Oh i also found a perfect HUD video for cobra, i was looking for something like this for many weeks. YouTube - AH-1W rockets and gun during Cobra Gold

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