Suicide Missions

Salah ad Din · 08-08-2008, 01:02 PM

Hello PR community.

Over in the Tournament forums, there is an ongoing discussion, whether the use of Suicide Tactics should be allowed for regular armies and the Militia, or not. Insurgents are of course entitled to these actions, but what about MEC, PLA, Brits, USMC, US Army and Militias?

I would like to hear the opinions of the non-PRT-community on this.

First, whether you think it should be allowed in the Tournament Rules, second, what is your opinion on using these tactics on a public server (compare with H-AT sniping rules on some servers).

Here are some links, that prove that regular armies actually DO have Suicide Units that are especially trained for this kind of tatctics:

Iran suicide bombers ‘ready to hit Britain’ - Times Online
israelinsider: diplomacy: Sunday Times: 40,000 Iran suicide bombers ready to hit US, UK targets
Qods (Jerusalem) Force, Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC - Pasdaran) Iran Intelligence
War with Iran would be Navy, Air Force show - Army News, opinions, editorials, news from Iraq, photos, reports - Army Times
Iran navy in suicide attack pledge - CNN.com
Iran's Suicide Brigades: Terrorism Resurgent - Middle East Quarterly

cyberzomby · 08-08-2008, 01:11 PM

I dont think the regular army's should use it. Maybe the MEC but Its just weird to waste all those resources and moneyz on a suicide attack. Insurgent stuff is MUCH less costly so it wont be a big problem if they lose some in a good self destruct!

I also dont like HAT sniping. A thousand dollar costing missile against a regular infantry man instead of a tank? Thats crazy :P

Salah ad Din · 08-08-2008, 01:12 PM

Did you read the links? Also, one ticket and a Vodnik are very cheap compared to an Abrams MBT.

torenico · 08-08-2008, 02:38 PM

I do my own suicide attacks on PR.. fun as hell, those guys running whit SKS and AK's.. i remember that.. my buddies running and getting shot.. on Mestia.. obiusly it was an old Version..

cyberzomby · 08-08-2008, 02:57 PM

I did see the links there. Thats why I said: MEC maybe.

Rudd · 08-08-2008, 03:09 PM

I would say no suicide missions

Generally soldiers won't do stuff that has no chance of them coming back alive?
Iran is an exception due to the lengths it had to go to defeat Iraq "the army of god"

HAT sniping is fine because:
1) It takes teamwork
2) If you arent aware you can easily be ambushed
3) It requires lots and lots of ammo to be continuous

Quote:

I would like to hear the opinions of the non-PRT-community on this.

I'm giving Salah ad Din a bit of credit that between is own memory and the fact I have a campaign ribbon in my sig he can figure out I was in C6, moreover I held the above opinion b4 I joined the PRT for the reasons stated, my opinion has not changed, so I'll bloody well say my opinion

Spaz · 08-08-2008, 03:20 PM

I would say no beacuse its a stupied tacit I don't care if they do it IRL I just think its stupied.

NickO · 08-08-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

I would say no suicide missions

Generally soldiers won't do stuff that has no chance of them coming back alive?
Iran is an exception due to the lengths it had to go to defeat Iraq "the army of god"

HAT sniping is fine because:
1) It takes teamwork
2) If you arent aware you can easily be ambushed
3) It requires lots and lots of ammo to be continuous

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaz

I would say no beacuse its a stupied tacit I don't care if they do it IRL I just think its stupied.

Please read the post. If you want to argue this go to the PRT forums. This is for Non PRT members.

[R-DEV]Masaq · 08-08-2008, 04:20 PM

Nick0, any member of these forums can post. If someone posts a thread in here, it's open to everyone - PRT or not. Got that?

That said, this thread cannot be purely about about the PRT, because PRT issues need to be debated in the PRT forum... AFAIC, it's open to everyone as a general debate on suicide tactics in-game and how they relate to RL.

As soon as it becomes a moaning session about the PR Tournament, it's getting locked. I'm not having any arguments/discussions from the PRT spilling out into the main forums.

Sadist_Cain · 08-08-2008, 04:42 PM

I would say not

I'd say that the scenarios we have with regular armys are such that they do not warrent suicide tactics and that it just serves to disorganise and N00b up a server

08-08-2008, 01:02 PM	#1
Salah ad Din Join Date: Jan 2007 Europe Location: Golden Camel Land Posts: 579	Suicide Missions Hello PR community. Over in the Tournament forums, there is an ongoing discussion, whether the use of Suicide Tactics should be allowed for regular armies and the Militia, or not. Insurgents are of course entitled to these actions, but what about MEC, PLA, Brits, USMC, US Army and Militias? I would like to hear the opinions of the non-PRT-community on this. First, whether you think it should be allowed in the Tournament Rules, second, what is your opinion on using these tactics on a public server (compare with H-AT sniping rules on some servers). Here are some links, that prove that regular armies actually DO have Suicide Units that are especially trained for this kind of tatctics: Iran suicide bombers ‘ready to hit Britain’ - Times Online israelinsider: diplomacy: Sunday Times: 40,000 Iran suicide bombers ready to hit US, UK targets Qods (Jerusalem) Force, Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC - Pasdaran) Iran Intelligence War with Iran would be Navy, Air Force show - Army News, opinions, editorials, news from Iraq, photos, reports - Army Times Iran navy in suicide attack pledge - CNN.com Iran's Suicide Brigades: Terrorism Resurgent - Middle East Quarterly
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08-08-2008, 01:11 PM	#2
cyberzomby Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Netherlands Posts: 4,727	Re: Suicide Missions I dont think the regular army's should use it. Maybe the MEC but Its just weird to waste all those resources and moneyz on a suicide attack. Insurgent stuff is MUCH less costly so it wont be a big problem if they lose some in a good self destruct! I also dont like HAT sniping. A thousand dollar costing missile against a regular infantry man instead of a tank? Thats crazy :P

08-08-2008, 01:12 PM	#3
Salah ad Din Join Date: Jan 2007 Europe Location: Golden Camel Land Posts: 579	Re: Suicide Missions Did you read the links? Also, one ticket and a Vodnik are very cheap compared to an Abrams MBT.
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08-08-2008, 02:38 PM	#4
torenico Join Date: Jun 2007 Argentina Location: Kashan desert Posts: 1,370	Re: Suicide Missions I do my own suicide attacks on PR.. fun as hell, those guys running whit SKS and AK's.. i remember that.. my buddies running and getting shot.. on Mestia.. obiusly it was an old Version..
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08-08-2008, 02:57 PM	#5
cyberzomby Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Netherlands Posts: 4,727	Re: Suicide Missions I did see the links there. Thats why I said: MEC maybe.

08-08-2008, 03:20 PM	#7
Spaz Join Date: Jun 2006 Sweden Location: Skellefteå\|Sweden Posts: 4,441	Re: Suicide Missions I would say no beacuse its a stupied tacit I don't care if they do it IRL I just think its stupied.
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08-08-2008, 04:20 PM	#9
[R-DEV]Masaq PR2 Manager Join Date: Sep 2006 United Kingdom Location: UK Posts: 10,312 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Suicide Missions Nick0, any member of these forums can post. If someone posts a thread in here, it's open to everyone - PRT or not. Got that? That said, this thread cannot be purely about about the PRT, because PRT issues need to be debated in the PRT forum... AFAIC, it's open to everyone as a general debate on suicide tactics in-game and how they relate to RL. As soon as it becomes a moaning session about the PR Tournament, it's getting locked. I'm not having any arguments/discussions from the PRT spilling out into the main forums.
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08-08-2008, 04:42 PM	#10
Sadist_Cain Join Date: Aug 2007 United Kingdom Location: L337tAnkp00ning with Robbi187 Posts: 1,218	Re: Suicide Missions I would say not I'd say that the scenarios we have with regular armys are such that they do not warrent suicide tactics and that it just serves to disorganise and N00b up a server
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