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View Poll Results: How many seconds should you have to wait between each shot to maintain long accuracy?
0.00 4 1.30%
0.50 45 14.61%
1.00 59 19.16%
1.50 68 22.08%
2.00 55 17.86%
2.50 17 5.52%
3.00 28 9.09%
3.50 11 3.57%
4.00 5 1.62%
4.50 0 0%
5.00 16 5.19%
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:13 PM   #31
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Put it on burst and you got no problems...
Umm I foresee problems at 50m, 100, 200, 300 ect.


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Old 06-18-2008, 07:48 PM   #32
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Default Re: How many seconds should you have to wait between each shot to maintain mid/long r

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Does the recoil animation even complete that quickly? ... and what was all that talk about "you have to count to X then fire for accuracy"?
The recoil animation is about 0.5 seconds from start to finish but you don't have to wait that long to fire the next shot; it's easy to predict the movement of the auto-recoil-return effect and fire 3 accurate shots within 1 second at most ranges.

Currently, the "settle" times are:

Per shot: 0.33 seconds
Mouse movement: 0.66 seconds
Foot movement: 1.33 seconds

These times seem extremely low, and if "you have to count to X then fire for accuracy", it probably references the foot movement time. Even so, the max deviation for each action is so narrow that the hit/miss factor is neglegable at short/medium (and in many cases) even long ranges. Combined with the ability for players to instantly pixel their cursor over your head... well, you know the rest.

So what's the answer? At bare minimum, all three settle times should be increased with a slight increase in the cone of fire. Something like:

Per shot: 1.5 seconds
Mouse movement: 1.5 seconds
Foot movement: 2.0 seconds
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:03 PM   #33
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Interesting.


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Old 06-19-2008, 03:41 PM   #34
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Double tap works fine with alot of guns


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Old 06-19-2008, 05:34 PM   #35
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Default Re: How many seconds should you have to wait between each shot to maintain mid/long r

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At bare minimum, all three settle times should be increased with a slight increase in the cone of fire. Something like:

Per shot: 1.5 seconds
Mouse movement: 1.5 seconds
Foot movement: 2.0 seconds
I would agree with that. But, deviation added from mouse movement should be kept to a minimum. For the sake of target tracking and making minor adjustments to your aim.


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Old 06-19-2008, 05:46 PM   #36
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I second that.


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Old 06-19-2008, 06:36 PM   #37
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I would agree with that. But, deviation added from mouse movement should be kept to a minimum. For the sake of target tracking and making minor adjustments to your aim.
Mouse tracking is only affected if the player turns quickly, for example, 90+ degrees in 1/2 second. Tracking a target across a 45-90 degree arc is not affected.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:07 PM   #38
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Mouse tracking is only affected if the player turns quickly, for example, 90+ degrees in 1/2 second. Tracking a target across a 45-90 degree arc is not affected.
awesome

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Per shot: 1.5 seconds
Mouse movement: 1.5 seconds
Foot movement: 2.0 seconds
maybe;

i would add foot movement to like 3/3.5


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Old 06-19-2008, 07:32 PM   #39
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i wouldve thought 3secs was enough to place your shots well



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Old 06-19-2008, 08:38 PM   #40
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Default Re: How many seconds should you have to wait between each shot to maintain mid/long r

Remember that it's a game and that visual representation is not in play. 3 seconds would be a nuisance rather than a gameplay improvement.


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