Your preferred Jet in 0.7 - Discussion of handling and performance ONLY

[BabaGurGur]

Originally Posted by andretmzt

I need a really long run up to land it

? What you talkin bout! You're obviously going to fast to land it, speed down to 400, use your afterburner to stay up, and dont land front wheel first..

[Alex6714]

Originally Posted by Waaah_Wah

Its piss easy to controll jets with KB&M, so i have no idea why ppl are crying

A good joystick pilot will beat a good keyboard pilot in pr.

As for landing I usually come in at 600-800 depending on jet, slowing down slightly reaching the runway and bringing the throttle back fully going over the threshold, then just flare.

[Waaah_Wah]

Originally Posted by Alex6714

A good joystick pilot will beat a good keyboard pilot in pr.

Eh... Please tell me, if there any manuevers you can do with a stick that you cant do with KB&M?

[[R-MOD]Eddiereyes909]

Originally Posted by Waaah_Wah

Eh... Please tell me, if there any manuevers you can do with a stick that you cant do with KB&M?

controlling speed for one.

[Alex6714]

Originally Posted by Waaah_Wah

Eh... Please tell me, if there any manuevers you can do with a stick that you cant do with KB&M?

Constant imput, much better throttle control, better "feel" for the aircraft, fun factor etc...

[Waaah_Wah]

Originally Posted by Alex6714

Constant imput,

Not actually sure what that means:/

much better throttle control,

Do you even need it..? I can land just fine without it.

better "feel" for the aircraft, fun factor etc...

I have lots of fun flying with KB&M

Originally Posted by Eddiereyes909

controlling speed for one.

And when do you actually need it? Seriously guys, what you can do with a stick, you can also do with KB&M, so how is the stick better?

[CAS_117]

Originally Posted by Waaah_Wah

And when do you actually need it? Seriously guys, what you can do with a stick, you can also do with KB&M, so how is the stick better?

Well Lockheed was planning to put a keyboard into the F-22 but they took it out after pilots complained about having to type the word "C:\Weapons\M61A2\Arm\shoot" into the MS Prompt.

Ok on a serious-er note:

1. You can pitch continuously at any rate you want.

2. You can roll continuously at any rate you want.

3. If you are so inclined you can go almost completely HOTAS, assuming you have the right joystick. (I recommend).

4. Less chance of accidentally pressing "E" (NOTE: DO NOT LEAVE YOUR EJECT KEY AT E)

5. It offers the precision of the mouse with the constant input of the keyboard.

6. Its fluid and you can slide your joystick back and to the side instantly, or in complete circles. If you are using the arrow keys thats impossible to do half as well.

7. They're cheap, and if you fly in any other game (If you want to fly in PR well at all, play a flight sim, if only to get used to using a stick) PR will be beyond stupidly easy to excel in.

8. As in #7 people who have joysticks often fly in other games to. I'm not saying learn a ramp start in F4AF, but some of the best pilots I've seen in PR fly in other titles as well.

9. Its realistic. <<<-period.

Now other than that why would I make it so that you have to use a joystick to fly well in PR? (not my words btw, someone got so frustrated that they relinquished 20$ for a joysticks and were shocked at the difference)

Because I'm out to get you. And clearly the way I do that is by making planes have a reasonable turn radius and more effective weapon systems.

[Alex6714]

*sigh* Its not needed, but it is much better. If you don´t understand what constant input is, you won´t understand why it is better. Remember, you aren´t instantly good with a joystick, it also takes practice.

I also play lock on and FSX, so I have my lovely Saitek X52.

[SleepyHe4d]

Originally Posted by Alex6714

it is much better.

I don't agree, especially for this game's engine. Constant input is certainly an advantage, but for the way the jets and helicopters handle right now it's not that big of one. The better precision the mouse gives I believe gives a way bigger advantage for how the game currently is. So for BF2 and PR: M&KB > Joystick.

Oh and I know you'll feel compelled to argue against the precision of a mouse but sorry, it is a fact that using your fingers on something that doesn't give any resistance is more precise than using your whole arm to control a spring loaded device.

[[R-DEV]Masaq]

In what way is that a fact?

I can J/S fly the Littlebird under the bridges on Qwai and thread a Blackhawk through the dam on Jabal. I can generally fly the BH at around 20ft above ground level at full pelt in order to hide behind buildings, ridgelines and in streambeds/valleys...

I'm not saying you can't do the same with a mouse, but it's daft to argue that a joystick isn't as sensitive. If you find that's the case; up the sensitivity of your stick.