Why does no-one play bi ming? - Page 4

SiN|ScarFace · 01-25-2008, 07:21 PM

I hate night maps, can't see crap and my LCD monitor sucks at displaying black and dark colors, and I don't like NGVs.

Clypp · 01-25-2008, 07:22 PM

The thing is, Bi Ming only has the night setting. Nothing else about the map is interesting in any way. It is just a series of islands with small bases in the middle of them. There is no compelling reason for the map to be laid out as it is. If it was not a NVG map, it would never have made it into PR.

That kind of makes it a one trick pony that gets dull after a bit.

Also the NVGs are not too good and there is no thermal vision.

Nickbond592 · 01-25-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Clypp

Also the NVG's are not too good and there is no thermal vision.

and you've got better ones?, or have proof of every British/Chinese standard infantryman using thermal sights in a night battle (excluding gun sights) ?

Squidy · 01-25-2008, 09:26 PM

It’s loads better in .7 (like the ctd bug being fixed) and I think a lot of people haven’t tried it since, which is a shame.

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Hardly ever any inf engagements

Hewwo! Only 2 APC’s on the whole map… It’s all about the infantry, which is personally my favourite element of PR.

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it mainly plays out on defending a flag that noone attacks

Nah that was in .6 noob

It’s AAS 1 now so there’s only ever 1 flag to attack at a time, drastically increasing the action!

I’ve definitely had some of my most intense and enjoyable rounds on Bi Ming, even though that’s sadly only like 2 full rounds

I agree that people don’t know how to adapt to playing in this different environment, and it is very demanding on squad cohesion.

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If it was not a NVG map, it would never have made it into PR.

It was designed to be a night map, so it is a night map… Kasharn was designed to be a 4k map, so it is. If Kasharn wasn’t 4K there wouldn’t be so many open spaces etc. Bi Ming is designed for lots of hard close quarters infantry combat with a few dangerous open areas that present different challenges at night time where you illuminate yourself clearly by firing your weapon.

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It is just a series of islands with small bases in the middle of them

You could say that about loads of maps, and to me your sentences are just a series of words with fullstops in them, there’s no compelling reason for these words to be laid out as they are my dear wickle noob

BloodBane611 · 01-26-2008, 12:18 AM

I personally like Bi Ming a lot. Did some pubbing with my PRT squad on it and we had a lot of fun. As the only nightmap it's really intense, too many people (and apparently admins) are afraid of it, so it just doesn't get played enough.

snooggums · 01-26-2008, 02:38 AM

Frankly, the nightvision setup of Bi Ming is what annoys me. The restricted vision on the nightvision goggles (why couldn't they just round the corners, vision on a computer screen is restricted enough) and only being able to zoom with the weapon makes it even worse to see anything. Basically I struggle the whole time to see anything, not because it is night and everything is green, but because I'm playing on the equivalent of a 13 inch monochrome monitor on a 21 inch screen.

If it was a full screen with rounded edges for the goggles I would enjoy the map.

icehollow · 01-26-2008, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by M4nicMin3r

Just wondering.., first time today ( since the .7 update ) ive see a server running bi ming (TG) i jumped on only for the round to end 2 mins later. Why does no-one else have this map in rotation?.

Ive said it before ,i'll say it again.., I honestly believe this is THE most immersive map in PR EVER, yet everyone seems to hate it and it never appears to be in anyones map rotation.

WHY WHY WHY?????!!!!

Short answer:

Cuz it blows.

'nuff said

/thread etc.

Long answer:
A)it's a night time map, night time maps in general tend to be boring because players aren't used to the NVG so they don't expanding their zones of movement.

B)it's a night time armor map. Which doesn't need explaining.

C) it sucks.

KINDA OT:

Does anyone know if with current issue NVG goggles in RL it's still bloody hard to look through your rifle's sights? Would be cool in PR, seeing a night time map with people being forced to rely on point firing.

Squidy · 01-26-2008, 05:25 AM

Icehollow the short answer is:

You’re an R-Tard

Long answer
Having two APC’s hardly makes it an “armour map” since it still leaves up to 60 people not using crewman kits! Plus the infantry still get light AT which, with a bit of teamwork, makes dealing with an APC very easy.

If you don’t think my longer explanation justifies me being rude about you in the first place then please take a moment to think about this and how it relates to your above post.

M4nicMin3r · 01-26-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by icehollow

Short answer:

Cuz it blows.

'nuff said

/thread etc.

Long answer:
A)it's a night time map, night time maps in general tend to be boring because players aren't used to the NVG so they don't expanding their zones of movement.

B)it's a night time armor map. Which doesn't need explaining.

C) it sucks.

KINDA OT:

Does anyone know if with current issue NVG goggles in RL it's still bloody hard to look through your rifle's sights? Would be cool in PR, seeing a night time map with people being forced to rely on point firing.

O_M_G....,

Well dunno quite how to respond to that, apart from

A) Night maps boring? ROFL!!!omgz0rzbbqsc!!eleventy0ne! players dont expand their movement zones??? i beg to differ., if anything they are increased.

B) "Armour map????" rofl.., the apcs just shout "HEY IM OVER HERE, AT/C4 ME!". Any round ive been on bi ming the armour has been delt with extremely quickly with next to no hassle at all.

C) errrr w/e

BTW devs chrs for fixing the CTD on load on this map

kilroy0097 · 01-26-2008, 07:39 AM

I will say one thing... It would be very cool to have Bi Ming as a Daytime map as well. I think it would be an excellent day time map. That way playing the same map at Night would be very cool since you've seen the same map during the day.

I would love to see Day and Night on this map and a few others as well.

01-25-2008, 07:21 PM	#31
SiN\|ScarFace Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,530	I hate night maps, can't see crap and my LCD monitor sucks at displaying black and dark colors, and I don't like NGVs.
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01-26-2008, 12:18 AM	#35
BloodBane611 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 United States of America Location: The Snowy Northeast Posts: 7,406	I personally like Bi Ming a lot. Did some pubbing with my PRT squad on it and we had a lot of fun. As the only nightmap it's really intense, too many people (and apparently admins) are afraid of it, so it just doesn't get played enough.
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01-26-2008, 02:38 AM	#36
snooggums Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,099	Frankly, the nightvision setup of Bi Ming is what annoys me. The restricted vision on the nightvision goggles (why couldn't they just round the corners, vision on a computer screen is restricted enough) and only being able to zoom with the weapon makes it even worse to see anything. Basically I struggle the whole time to see anything, not because it is night and everything is green, but because I'm playing on the equivalent of a 13 inch monochrome monitor on a 21 inch screen. If it was a full screen with rounded edges for the goggles I would enjoy the map.
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01-26-2008, 05:25 AM	#38
Squidy Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 68	Icehollow the short answer is: You’re an R-Tard Long answer Having two APC’s hardly makes it an “armour map” since it still leaves up to 60 people not using crewman kits! Plus the infantry still get light AT which, with a bit of teamwork, makes dealing with an APC very easy. If you don’t think my longer explanation justifies me being rude about you in the first place then please take a moment to think about this and how it relates to your above post.
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01-25-2008, 07:22 PM	#32
Clypp Join Date: Jul 2006 Canada Location: Ontario Posts: 2,138	The thing is, Bi Ming only has the night setting. Nothing else about the map is interesting in any way. It is just a series of islands with small bases in the middle of them. There is no compelling reason for the map to be laid out as it is. If it was not a NVG map, it would never have made it into PR. That kind of makes it a one trick pony that gets dull after a bit. Also the NVGs are not too good and there is no thermal vision.

01-26-2008, 07:39 AM	#40
kilroy0097 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bryan/College Station, TX Posts: 459	I will say one thing... It would be very cool to have Bi Ming as a Daytime map as well. I think it would be an excellent day time map. That way playing the same map at Night would be very cool since you've seen the same map during the day. I would love to see Day and Night on this map and a few others as well.

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