FoxHoles, possible... maybe

Sgt_Canadian_Floss · 10-14-2007, 07:12 PM

Idont nkow if this is a good idea or not, the only knowledge about mapping that ive got is from reading the forum.
In real life, soldirers do make foxholes, why not in PR
I heard that its impossible in PR because theirs like one layer of terrain (something like that)
But if you could do two layer of terrain :
One full of holes, and the other one covering it (that one should walkable)

Or if what ive said was total bullshit, make a foxhole a deployable asset.

See ya all on the battlefield

Teek · 10-14-2007, 07:30 PM

I would like to see foxhole of the kind on Hills Of Ham forest Flag.
a possible deployable would be a small 1-2 man sized ring of sandbags over a equal sized doughnut of sand base. A commander would deploy a set pattern of 5 (in a line or box or or scatter formations)

instead of this thread being locked for re suggestion why don't we brained storm possible ways of making personal 360 cover?

1rankman · 10-14-2007, 08:36 PM

how about dirt in a 360 d. like a fox hole but getting round the whole one ground thing

SGT.JOKER · 10-14-2007, 08:49 PM

This would work good on forest/jungle maps when defending a flag but I dont think they should be able to be deployed on city maps (imagine seeing a foxhole cut into the assfault of a street lol)

DarkTalon · 10-14-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGT.JOKER

This would work good on forest/jungle maps when defending a flag but I dont think they should be able to be deployed on city maps (imagine seeing a foxhole cut into the assfault of a street lol)

get a tiny collapsible shovel and start digging in your street.

watch what happens.

Sgt_Canadian_Floss · 10-14-2007, 09:22 PM

Well, of course you cant dig in certain textures, maybe unless we make a jackhammer, but From Professsional Mappers, is it possible?

Expendable Grunt · 10-15-2007, 05:08 AM

Why not just give the SL the sandbag ability?

IronTaxi · 10-15-2007, 05:27 AM

yeah we have gone over it quite extensively and it will always look like a piece of "#$##!#%#"%%....so up till now we havent done it...who knows though...could be added somewhere in the future..

problem is we cant get soldiers under the level of the terrain which means any foxhole we make will have to be higher (aka visible) than the terrain itself...making them nearly pointless as they will be like screaming...IM HERE SHOT ME APC/TANK!!!

[R-DEV]Rhino · 10-15-2007, 05:34 AM

ye, the only small way that looked to have potential is to define areas where you could make fox wholes, by digging a whole in the editor than having a static put above it, which then you could "dig" (repair) into this static to crate the fox whole. Problem is that we couldn't make them look good and blend in with the terrain, + undergrowth etc couldn't grow on them etc etc. Also another problem would be is that the only type of map where they would only be a might be able to work on was a scale 2 map, as the grids are far too big for a scale 4. Also the fox whole locations would be soon learnt by players and they would soon become meaningless, more or less.

We may look into it more in the future but for now aint going to happen any time soon I dont think.

BloodAce · 10-15-2007, 05:49 AM

If the foxholes are way too complicated due to terrain specifications and sandbags higher then the terrain would be indeed screaming for death, have you think about other way of camouflage for infantry?
Something which would be possible to place on almost any terrain but which would not looks as obvious defence structure?
Some kind of small covers from wood, rocks or small green bushes placeable by soldiers depends on a map or terrain.

10-14-2007, 07:12 PM	#1
Sgt_Canadian_Floss Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada	FoxHoles, possible... maybe Idont nkow if this is a good idea or not, the only knowledge about mapping that ive got is from reading the forum. In real life, soldirers do make foxholes, why not in PR I heard that its impossible in PR because theirs like one layer of terrain (something like that) But if you could do two layer of terrain : One full of holes, and the other one covering it (that one should walkable) Or if what ive said was total bullshit, make a foxhole a deployable asset. See ya all on the battlefield

10-14-2007, 07:30 PM	#2
Teek Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,138 Canada	I would like to see foxhole of the kind on Hills Of Ham forest Flag. a possible deployable would be a small 1-2 man sized ring of sandbags over a equal sized doughnut of sand base. A commander would deploy a set pattern of 5 (in a line or box or or scatter formations) instead of this thread being locked for re suggestion why don't we brained storm possible ways of making personal 360 cover?
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Sgt_Canadian_Floss Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada	Well, of course you cant dig in certain textures, maybe unless we make a jackhammer, but From Professsional Mappers, is it possible?

10-15-2007, 05:27 AM	#8
IronTaxi Mapping Manager Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,818 Canada Location: Vancouver Blog Entries: 10	yeah we have gone over it quite extensively and it will always look like a piece of "#$##!#%#"%%....so up till now we havent done it...who knows though...could be added somewhere in the future.. problem is we cant get soldiers under the level of the terrain which means any foxhole we make will have to be higher (aka visible) than the terrain itself...making them nearly pointless as they will be like screaming...IM HERE SHOT ME APC/TANK!!!
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10-15-2007, 05:34 AM	#9
[R-DEV]Rhino PR:BF2 Developer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 39,232 United Kingdom Location: Somerset - UK Blog Entries: 30	ye, the only small way that looked to have potential is to define areas where you could make fox wholes, by digging a whole in the editor than having a static put above it, which then you could "dig" (repair) into this static to crate the fox whole. Problem is that we couldn't make them look good and blend in with the terrain, + undergrowth etc couldn't grow on them etc etc. Also another problem would be is that the only type of map where they would only be a might be able to work on was a scale 2 map, as the grids are far too big for a scale 4. Also the fox whole locations would be soon learnt by players and they would soon become meaningless, more or less. We may look into it more in the future but for now aint going to happen any time soon I dont think.
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BloodAce Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 224 Poland	If the foxholes are way too complicated due to terrain specifications and sandbags higher then the terrain would be indeed screaming for death, have you think about other way of camouflage for infantry? Something which would be possible to place on almost any terrain but which would not looks as obvious defence structure? Some kind of small covers from wood, rocks or small green bushes placeable by soldiers depends on a map or terrain.
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