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Old 07-11-2007, 03:58 PM   #31
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the MoD refuse to train pilots how to fire it, train in using it or buy ammunition for it.
As far as I know, strafing runs are still part of the program. RAF Donna Nook (in, if memory serves me correctly, Lincolnshire or Norfolk) is used for strafing runs (big fuck-off canvas targets placed well out to sea ) but, as per usual, the Action Mandarins in the MOD are tight, tight, tight and live firing runs are restricted to maybe 2 a year tops.



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Old 07-11-2007, 04:09 PM   #32
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Well, actually, next plane in line would be the J-8II or J-7 (MiG-21) but anyway, you do present a good argument.

If the J-10 in its current form has poor hit boxes the natural choice is the J-11/Su-27/Su-30.

IIRC, Rhino said the J-10 will be the air superiorty fighter on Quinling. I doubt it's a new version though.

The problem with any of the Chinese Jets that could be the fighter is that they would need new models. So, uh...

The key to modernising any weapon is covering them in glue and tossing them in a barrel of M1913 rails until they look "Modern" enough.

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Old 07-11-2007, 05:09 PM   #33
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As far as I know, strafing runs are still part of the program. RAF Donna Nook (in, if memory serves me correctly, Lincolnshire or Norfolk) is used for strafing runs (big fuck-off canvas targets placed well out to sea ) but, as per usual, the Action Mandarins in the MOD are tight, tight, tight and live firing runs are restricted to maybe 2 a year tops.
I'm not saying that they don't for other aircraft, it's just that they weren't going to train pilots how to use it on the EF because of the costs....... until a bunch of angry infantry 'leaders' (not much of an inf man, sorry) complained and basically called the MoD fucking useless.


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Old 07-11-2007, 05:30 PM   #34
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Well then they weren't far wrong Eddie. Damn bureaucrats!

Also, I thought that the Tranche T1 was only a trainer/familiarisation aircraft? Might be wrong though, the only contact I've had with the RAF was on a week's work experience to RAF St Athan (now, or soon to be, MoD St Athan) Talking of St Athan, Eggenberg, I'm pretty sure that Pembrey Sands is also used for air-to-ground training? Because when I was with the engineers they were rigging up a load of Hawks to do a sortie there (missiles and cannon were fully equipped)

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Old 07-11-2007, 05:38 PM   #35
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Well they're using it in the Operational Conversion Unit (17 Squadron, 29 Squadron), Operational Evaluation Unit and the Air Defence Role (3 Squadron as of November 2007, 11 Squadron as of March 2007).


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