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Falklands (Malvinas) Mini-Mod Announcement
Posted in: Mapping
Posted 04-02-2012 at 07:58 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino

Hey all,

As I'm sure many of you are away that today, the 2nd of April marks the 30th anniversary of the Falklands War and with it I wanted to do something to commemorate it.

As a result I've been cooking up a little something over the past few weeks while taking a bit of a break from my other tasks.

Before I go any further into this I would like to explain that this is currently only planned as a standalone mini-mod for PR:BF2, much like Project Normandy and is going to be using a lot of placeholders for its first release. One thing I hope is that after I release the first version that the community will take on the development of this mini-mod and refine it, replacing the place holders with the correct assets

This mini-mod is based as much as possible on the 1982 war between Britain and Argentinian over the Falkland (Malvina) Islands, taking into account historic factors and trying to replicate them in a way which gives fun and balanced gameplay while also working with the limitations of the BF2 engine and assets we have to hand.

Focusing on the map, I've been wanting to experiment with large scale maps for some time in BF2 and with this project I have finally had the excuse to able to do so, as the map is currently 16kms by 16kms (Kashan is 4kms by 4kms). This is achieved by ditching BF2's terrain, and making the terrain out of a staticmesh (aka, mesh terrain), which isn't without its problems however... The main thing however is that with this size of map, we can really portray the importance of the air campaign in the war to a degree not seen in PR before, as well as spreading out the ground combat a bit.

Since the map/mini-mod is very WIP I'm not going to give away too much at this point as a lot of this is very liable to change but here is the current mini-map + my basic plan and a few screenshots.


The white box around North East Falklands represents a 4km (Kashan) sized map so you can get an idea on the scale and the flags/troop movement arrows match those pretty closely to what happened in 1982.



For those of you who are not very knowledgeable about the 1982 Falklands War, I would recommend watching the following documentaries which will give you a basic insight to what you can expect from the map





I do have one issue with the 16km size that is somewhat of a show stopper however, which is 3 errors that pop up, even in full screen mode telling you the map is too large. Although you can continue past these errors without any problems (although in full screen mode, you are unaware you get them and must alt+tab to see them). If I can't find a solution to solve or suppress these errors it may mean I have to opt for my backup plan, which is basically to make the map an 8km by 8km map which doesn't get the errors and then having the carrier/airbase outside the combat zone. Although this will mean that domes of death are not possible and navigation outside the combat zone will be very, very hard, with jets never finding there way back to the airbase. But I've still got my fingers cross that I might just be able to somehow solve these errors I've got, but I wont bore you guys with that stuff any more but just warning you guys that might be a factor


Keep your eyes peeled for any more news on this in the next few weeks


Cheers!
Updated 04-02-2012 at 08:15 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino
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    Cheers for the info, you wouldn't happen to have any pictures of the Argentinian Mauser 98 with scope so I can easily identify it?

    And will keep the translation bit in mind!

    BTW one thing that has sprung to mind with translation, would be translating the field dressing. Might also need to change its format a bit too (please note if it dose) like Joint Services probably doesn't fit very well for one example, but ye w/e you can do would be good here!
    http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3...2012222439.jpg

    Cheers!
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    Posted 04-11-2012 at 06:25 PM by [R-DEV]Rhino [R-DEV]Rhino is online now
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    Mauser 1909 with scope:



    About the field dressing is not a literaly translation because both languages have differents way to write and talk but will be something like this:

    "FUERZAS ARMADAS
    VENDAS, PRIMEROS AUXILIOS,
    CAMUFLADAS y ESTERILES
    10 cm x 19 cm
    NO MANIPULAR HERIDO O DENTRO DEL PAQUETE

    Para Abrir: Cortar por la esquina se?alada con la flecha
    Sostenga ambos extremos hasta dejar expuestos los vendajes
    Agarrar firmemente con ambas manos y tirar suavemente hasta
    extender la venda, sin soltar, aplicar suavemente sobre la
    herida."
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    Posted 04-11-2012 at 07:37 PM by Igwaith Igwaith is offline
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    cheers, thou this forum doesn't like certain characters and puts a ? in there place like in "se?alada" so will need to know what symbol is there at some point hehe

    Cheers!
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    Posted 04-12-2012 at 06:05 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino [R-DEV]Rhino is online now
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    cheers, thou this forum doesn't like certain characters and puts a ? in there place like in "se?alada" so will need to know what symbol is there at some point hehe

    Cheers!
    Hey.
    Gotta say this project of yours has me very interested!! Although I can't mod at all (and I'm too lazy to learn how to ), I guess I can give you a hand with this one though !!



    As you can see, it is similar to the letter "N". Its sound is the same as in "New" (I guess that doesn't really matter though)

    Keep in mind that a synonym of "Se?alada" is "Marcada" (lit. Marked)

    Cheers.
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    Posted 04-12-2012 at 05:42 PM by MacDouche MacDouche is offline
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    negative, not sure what sound files to use as place holders but something possibly the Argentinian community might be able to look into? Would need to talk to Jaymz about it if anyone is interested for info on how to rec but its a big task that will require a group of people in a sound proof studio.
    You could also have someone from the Argentine community send you (or to the person responsible) audio files recorded normally (pc mic, no soundproof room) and then try to mimic the sounds or get in touch with local spanish speaking people that can give you a hand.

    Just saying, 'cause I think it would be really hard to find somebody willing to do this AND that has a soundproof room as well here in Argentina (I would totally do it if I had the proper facilities).
    But everything is possible, I guess.

    Cheers.
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    Posted 04-12-2012 at 05:59 PM by MacDouche MacDouche is offline
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    Hey.
    Gotta say this project of yours has me very interested!! Although I can't mod at all (and I'm too lazy to learn how to ), I guess I can give you a hand with this one though !!



    As you can see, it is similar to the letter "N". Its sound is the same as in "New" (I guess that doesn't really matter though)

    Keep in mind that a synonym of "Se?alada" is "Marcada" (lit. Marked)

    Cheers.
    What is probably best is for you to save the text in a .txt or some other text document and then upload and post the link

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    Originally Posted by MacDouche View Comment
    You could also have someone from the Argentine community send you (or to the person responsible) audio files recorded normally (pc mic, no soundproof room) and then try to mimic the sounds or get in touch with local spanish speaking people that can give you a hand.

    Just saying, 'cause I think it would be really hard to find somebody willing to do this AND that has a soundproof room as well here in Argentina (I would totally do it if I had the proper facilities).
    But everything is possible, I guess.

    Cheers.
    The problem is our sound guys would just flip out and it would just end up being a waste of your guys time if you didn't do it properly

    I can't really help you too much here about how to go about this but if we can get 3 good voice actors who are serious above putting the effort in to record lots and lots of sounds, and are willing to organise themselves to do this then talk with [R-DEV]Jaymz about it and he should help out but its not something to be taken on lightly.
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    Posted 04-13-2012 at 08:25 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino [R-DEV]Rhino is online now
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    What is probably best is for you to save the text in a .txt or some other text document and then upload and post the link
    I could do that, yes, but then you would have to download and open the file, just to find a missing symbol again
    It's not a problem with this forum, but with the language. This letter does not exists in English and so I'm fairly sure that if your OS is in English, you'll still have the same problem (I could be wrong though)

    Here you go anyway: http://depositfiles.com/files/l3awux6pp

    Just right click the missing image and copy the URL, then place it in the address bar . That should do the trick.

    Regards
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    Posted 04-13-2012 at 10:22 AM by MacDouche MacDouche is offline
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    Na, its just a problem with the forums
    Most things can easily display the symbols of other languages, just this forum doesn't even show the GBP symbol even which is used by us brits all the time

    So just to confirm, this is how the field dressing text should look like ye? http://realitymodfiles.com/rhino/ref...ssing_text.txt
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    Posted 04-13-2012 at 11:43 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino [R-DEV]Rhino is online now
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    Na, its just a problem with the forums
    Most things can easily display the symbols of other languages, just this forum doesn't even show the GBP symbol even which is used by us brits all the time

    So just to confirm, this is how the field dressing text should look like ye? http://realitymodfiles.com/rhino/ref...ssing_text.txt
    FUERZAS ARMADAS
    VENDAJES, PRIMEROS AUXILIOS,
    CAMUFLADAS y ESTERILES
    10 cm x 19 cm
    NO MANIPULAR LA HERIDA O EL INTERIOR DE LA ALMOHADILLA

    Para Abrir: Cortar por la esquina se?alada con la flecha
    Sostenga ambos extremos hasta dejar expuestos los vendajes
    Sujetar firmemente con ambas manos y tirar suavemente hasta
    extender el vendaje, sin soltar, aplicar suavemente sobre la
    herida.

    I've changed some stuff (bold text)
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    Posted 04-13-2012 at 02:42 PM by MacDouche MacDouche is offline
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    Updated above link with your changes, that all good?
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    Posted 04-13-2012 at 02:45 PM by [R-DEV]Rhino [R-DEV]Rhino is online now
 


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