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Falklands (Malvinas) Mini-Mod Announcement
Posted in: Mapping
Posted 04-02-2012 at 07:58 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino

Hey all,

As I'm sure many of you are away that today, the 2nd of April marks the 30th anniversary of the Falklands War and with it I wanted to do something to commemorate it.

As a result I've been cooking up a little something over the past few weeks while taking a bit of a break from my other tasks.

Before I go any further into this I would like to explain that this is currently only planned as a standalone mini-mod for PR:BF2, much like Project Normandy and is going to be using a lot of placeholders for its first release. One thing I hope is that after I release the first version that the community will take on the development of this mini-mod and refine it, replacing the place holders with the correct assets

This mini-mod is based as much as possible on the 1982 war between Britain and Argentinian over the Falkland (Malvina) Islands, taking into account historic factors and trying to replicate them in a way which gives fun and balanced gameplay while also working with the limitations of the BF2 engine and assets we have to hand.

Focusing on the map, I've been wanting to experiment with large scale maps for some time in BF2 and with this project I have finally had the excuse to able to do so, as the map is currently 16kms by 16kms (Kashan is 4kms by 4kms). This is achieved by ditching BF2's terrain, and making the terrain out of a staticmesh (aka, mesh terrain), which isn't without its problems however... The main thing however is that with this size of map, we can really portray the importance of the air campaign in the war to a degree not seen in PR before, as well as spreading out the ground combat a bit.

Since the map/mini-mod is very WIP I'm not going to give away too much at this point as a lot of this is very liable to change but here is the current mini-map + my basic plan and a few screenshots.


The white box around North East Falklands represents a 4km (Kashan) sized map so you can get an idea on the scale and the flags/troop movement arrows match those pretty closely to what happened in 1982.



For those of you who are not very knowledgeable about the 1982 Falklands War, I would recommend watching the following documentaries which will give you a basic insight to what you can expect from the map





I do have one issue with the 16km size that is somewhat of a show stopper however, which is 3 errors that pop up, even in full screen mode telling you the map is too large. Although you can continue past these errors without any problems (although in full screen mode, you are unaware you get them and must alt+tab to see them). If I can't find a solution to solve or suppress these errors it may mean I have to opt for my backup plan, which is basically to make the map an 8km by 8km map which doesn't get the errors and then having the carrier/airbase outside the combat zone. Although this will mean that domes of death are not possible and navigation outside the combat zone will be very, very hard, with jets never finding there way back to the airbase. But I've still got my fingers cross that I might just be able to somehow solve these errors I've got, but I wont bore you guys with that stuff any more but just warning you guys that might be a factor


Keep your eyes peeled for any more news on this in the next few weeks


Cheers!
Updated 04-02-2012 at 08:15 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino
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    Will there be Merlins?

    I love that helicopter.
    Sorry, nooo chance.
    It'll all be Wessex, Lynx and Chinook out of the aircraft they've already made.
    Maybe if you're lucky, you'll get a Sea King and Wasp too
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    Posted 04-06-2012 at 02:01 PM by ozycar ozycar is offline
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    Sorry, nooo chance.
    It'll all be Wessex, Lynx and Chinook out of the aircraft they've already made.
    Maybe if you're lucky, you'll get a Sea King and Wasp too
    I'm pretty sure that there is a Merlin in game.
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    Posted 04-06-2012 at 02:23 PM by Shovel Shovel is offline
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    [R-DEV]Rhino's Avatar
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ozycar View Comment
    Sorry, nooo chance.
    It'll all be Wessex, Lynx and Chinook out of the aircraft they've already made.
    Maybe if you're lucky, you'll get a Sea King and Wasp too
    The Lynx Mk7 which we have ingame wasn't used in the Falklands.

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    Originally Posted by Shovel View Comment
    I'm pretty sure that there is a Merlin in game.
    The point being the Merlin only came into service in ~2000 depending on the version but the Army one ingame came in in 2001. Since this is war was in 1982 it doesn't quite fit
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    Posted 04-06-2012 at 02:33 PM by [R-DEV]Rhino [R-DEV]Rhino is online now
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    Splendid project. Looking forward to the release very much.
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    Posted 04-06-2012 at 09:59 PM by Zulnex Zulnex is offline
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    Tit4Tat's Avatar
    really good unique project, not sure if falklands war has ever been covered in a game so really looking forward to it.


    question: Will this "map" have a stand alone server or will you borrow/use some other server?
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    Posted 04-07-2012 at 07:15 PM by Tit4Tat Tit4Tat is offline
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    Originally Posted by Tit4Tat View Comment
    question: Will this "map" have a stand alone server or will you borrow/use some other server?
    it will be like PR Vietnam is right now and Project Normandy, essentially a modification within a map that you download separately from the mod and how servers run it is up to the server admins, although they need to stick with PR rules
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    Posted 04-08-2012 at 11:12 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino [R-DEV]Rhino is online now
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    Looks great cant wait to see it!
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    Posted 04-10-2012 at 07:44 AM by H.Kirkland H.Kirkland is offline
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    Hi! very nice project...
    I'cant help with modelling, but maybe a little with historical accuracy..
    The scope in both sides was uncomon, maybe select shooters or an oficer, with scope in a regular rifle... but no more than that

    Brit Weapons:
    Support:
    BREN L4A2 7.62 mm
    L7A2 (english version of belgium MAG )
    Submachine gun:
    L2A3 Sterling 9 mm
    Infantry Rifle
    L1A1 7.62 mm
    M16a1 5.56 mm (rare)
    Sniper:
    L42A1 7,62mm (Enfield MK4 modification)
    Antitank:
    Carl Gustav
    Pistol: Browning HP35 9 mm

    Argentina:
    Submachine gun:
    Halc?n ML63 9 mm() (only logistic and mechanical soldiers)
    PAM 1 9mm
    PAM 2 9mm
    Infantry Rifle :FN FAL 7.62 mm
    Pistol:
    Browning 9 mm
    Support:
    FN 50-41 FAP 7.62 mm
    FN MAG 7.62 mm
    Sniper
    FN FAL with scope
    Mauser 98 with scope

    Well... hope u can use that info... about the map, it will be abble to play coop? with bots? it'll be really good...
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    Posted 04-10-2012 at 08:57 PM by Igwaith Igwaith is offline
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    Cheers, pretty much got all of that and you can see it in the design plan here: http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f562...sign-plan.html

    Also the Argentinians used there own version of the FN FAL, the FM FAL

    Got any more info on the Argentinian Mauser 98 sniper btw? I've seen a few places say that but none that can show what version excatly or can really confirm it was used?

    Cheers
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    Posted 04-11-2012 at 04:21 AM by [R-DEV]Rhino [R-DEV]Rhino is online now
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    Yes, my mistake with the FN/FM FAL Sorry!
    FN FAL was used from 1958 to 1960 when Argentina buy the license to produce it and was replaced with FM FAL

    The Argentinian Mauser was the 1909, a modification of the Mauser 98 made by DWN (Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken). Argentina bought in 1909 163.000 rifles to DWN and FM (Fabricaciones Militares) made 20.000 of the cabalry version.
    The modifications made to the rifle where only the change of the barrel steel and some minor changes. So in practical use and aspect was identical to the Mauser 98
    The Mauser 1909 was used until the FN/FM FAL entered in service, but still remain in the army for practice, sniper and military parade.

    About how many where used, there's no way to know, the argentinian goberment doesn't explain to much, most are storys from verterans, 25 RI (Infantry Regiment) and 7 RI. So the only rifles in the army were the Mauser and the FM FAL with scope, and some Garand-Berreta but i think this were of the Marina. there was some exception, like a soldier who use his own rifle, a winchester .300

    Cheers

    PS: I've seen that are missing the textures with spanish text for the argentinian uniform, I can't help with the texture but yes with the text, so if you need something just tell me!
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    Posted 04-11-2012 at 02:13 PM by Igwaith Igwaith is offline
    Updated 04-11-2012 at 02:29 PM by Igwaith
 


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